on 5/30/03 3:40 PM, Caitlin Dean at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi folks...
> 
> I have a B&W G3/300 which I have upgraded with an early OWC G4/450 ZIF
> running at stock speed (I can't seem to bump it at all...and frankly it may
> be a bit flaky...but it could be something else) and its just not fast
> enough and I have meager funds...so I am asking for advice on the least
> expensive upgrade path.
> 
> Current specs:
> 
> Yosemite w/ G4/450
> 448MB of PC100 RAM
> 80GB HD
> ATI Rage 128 in pci slot (for 2nd monitor)
> Mac Radeon (32MB) in PCI Video slot using DVI connector to DVI LCD
> 
> This isn't really a gaming machine...mostly used for web production work and
> daily use (broadband internet connection) so AGP isn't critical (and would
> require another video card).
> 
> Can I get into the 800-1GHz range on a 100MB system bus?  The highest G4
> that can go on my yosemite appears to be a 550 and that really isn't enough
> of a jump for the cost right now.  a G4/800 upgrade (for most g4 systems)
> run about 250-350 right now on OWC so that is one data point.
> 
> If that is my target range for cpu perf...how much of my current system can
> I recycle?  I am completely comfortable taking stuff apart but I am
> unschooled in the arts of soldering and dremeling so major board or case
> hacking is a little beyond me right now :)
> 
> So, I know I need a new logic board and CPU to start. Do I need to start
> with a whole new (as bare as I can get it) system? Or can I get a new logic
> board, cpu and possibly power supply and retrofit it into the B&W? Or will
> that even save money?
> 
> Since the ram is all PC100...if I get a logic board with a 133 bus...won't I
> need to buy all new memory? I have some 128MB PC133 sticks lying
> around...and I even have a 256MB PC133 stick that I tried out in the B&W but
> it would only read 128MB... could I use any of that with any of the other G4
> logic boards?
> 
> Help me find my way (cheaply!) :)
> 
> Thanks in advance...
> Caitlin
> 
> 
> 
No AGP boards will fit nicely into a B&W case.

I would suggest for a cheap route to take the B&W apart and sell all but the
Radeon, Ram, and HD.  Then buy a 1st generation AGP, compare what parts you
have xtra and don�t need, sell the xtra parts, sell the cpu and HS, and buy
a CPU upgrade.


$ from B&W parts $300 (Tower/mobo/psu/drives/cpu/etc)
1st gen AGP $400-500
$ from xtras left from conversion $100 (xtra ram/hd/cpu)
g4/800 upgrade $250

Total cost for system upgrade/swap $300-400 ...if all goes nicely and you
have an "in between" Mac to use while doing it all.


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