-- As far as I know the B&W's support the option key on third party keyboards.. It was just the crappy iMac keyboards that came with them that didn't have that as well as a few other nice to have keys.. Sorry, kinda off topic.. Just thought I would throw it in...
hth -nathan On 7/15/04 6:48 PM, "Glenn Schunemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > True the B&W lacks the Startup Manager (the option key), however, if > you are in a sticky wicket and are having trouble booting simply hold > down the "x" key. This will zap the Mac's PRAM and boot into OS X > automatically. Then you can use the Startup Disk system pref to boot > back to OS 9. Frankly, it was the lack of the option key that prompted > me to upgrade to a G4... > > As per your other issues, it sounds like a real mess. One should never > install an OS 9 program in Classic mode. Classic is nice, but it ain't > perfect. I get error messages constantly when I use my scanner software > in Classic. But if I click out of them I get past it and the scanner > works. I don't get any errors when booted to OS 9. My rule of thumb is > simple: If it's an OS 9 program, install it while booted to 9. Then run > it in classic until your hearts content. > > If your install of OS 9 is that messed up you may want to consider a > "clean" install of OS 9 while booted to the install CD. The fact that > half your control panels are missing and all those other problems don't > appear to be related to simply running Classic... > > On Jul 15, 2004, at 7:57 AM, Mark Benson wrote: > >> I never do it purely becuase it makes a mess OS 9 makes. There are >> issues with it also if you are unable to get to the 'Startup Disk' >> control panel (or your machine lacks the option key boot sleect screen >> as my B&W does) switching form 9 to X and back again is a nightmare >> that usually involves digging out an OS 9 CD. Of course on late-99 >> machines and later this isn't an issue. > > The problems with OS X and OS 9 occur when you run Classic. It chews up > 9.1 and 9.2.2 installs and spits out an unholy mess that is no use at > all for most OS 9 native uses. My 9.2.2 Classic install on my B&W has > no networking at all, no control strip, half the control panels are > missing (yes I did install them) and some stuff other stuff has been > disabledm, such as the CD-ROM/DVD driver (no CDs mount on the desktop) > and I think also the FireWire support. I strongly suspect Panther > replaces these with 'dummy' items that reecieve info from OS X and pass > ti to OS9. It was originally a standard install for the B&W of 9.2.1 > that was upgraded to 9.2.2 and then used as a Classic desktop. I now > have a separate install of 9.2.2 on a differnet drive for OS 9 work, > not that I need it much. > > > > Thanks, > > Glenn > > <http://www.schunemann.com/~glenn/help/> > > G4 733 Quicksilver/OS 10.3/Maxtor 120GB HD x2/Sonnet TempoHD ATA > Controller/1.5 GB RAM/Pioneer DVR-107D DVD-RW Drive > > "PCs are machines you learn. Macs are machines you use." > - Me > -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
