I was under the impression that you couldn't use a system-specific CD
on another machine, especially an emac CD on a beige(since there's
such a big generation gap). I could be wrong though.


On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Jim Redman
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> 
> Ahem.  May I ask a technical question or two?  About a
> Mac??
> 
>   I have a Beige G3 desktop, 266 mhz, Rev 1 (rats).
> It has 416 MB RAM (so far) and came to me secondhand
> with an original ATA Apple CD and a Maxtor 15.3 GB
> Diamondmax Plus 45 HD, plus a SCSI factory Zip and
> added(?) Hungarian-made (for IBM, I think) SCSI HD
> that shows up as Product ID ZJCS2-18GB.  I believe it
> shipped originally with OS 8.1 (got the CD with it)
> and was updated to 8.5, then 8.6 (got those too).  I
> plugged in a Pioneer DVR--103MA burner and it reads
> fine, so I bought a set of OS 9.22 / OS X 10.2.4
> install CDs, also secondhand: grey, from an eMac.  I
> partitioned the SCSI HD, moved the OS 8.6 to the first
> part, installed OS 9 on the newly partitioned ATA
> Maxtor second part and then OS X on the first part.
> At least that was my intention.  The first thing I
> tried was installing OS 9 over 8.6 on the SCSI and OS
> X on the ATA and it almost worked, but I was having
> trouble with each of the OSs recognizing the other
> drives and booting to the other systems.  I finally
> decided to relegate my older software I want to run,
> to a Centris 650 with the RAM maxed and network it to
> the G3.  I was about ready to go OS X only on the G3,
> maybe with an ATI Radeon 7000 to deal with the DVD
> compliance issues.  BUT NOW...
>    I did something that was probably stupid... thought
> the settings on the CD/DVD might be the problem with
> drive recognition (some of the details on that are
> getting fuzzy with age, it's been weeks messing with
> this), so I tried changing jumpers, even trying slave
> on CD and then HD  which isn't supposed to work on
> this G3 but I was desperate, and now nothing works for
> installing OS X.  I DID take notes on the original
> MaxtorHD/AppleCD settings but lost them!  The HD is on
> the ATA 0 bus, or channel, and reports ID 0; the
> Pioneer is on ATA 1, ID 0, and I don't see anything to
> jumper the ID on the CD.  I am given to understand
> they should both be set to Master, and certainly Slave
> and ChannelSelect setting don't work, they create all
> kinds of "No bootable" and "can't load" tiny messages
> on blank grey screens that stop there.  But now, even
> both on Master, and after multiple PRAM zaps and a
> CUDA goosing (and CUDA seemed to confuse it more), I'm
> still have CD boot/install problems.  It was able to
> recognize 8.6 on the SCSI and run Install for 9.22
> from the CD onto the second half of the ATA, but that
> doesn't work for the OSX Install.  Help?  Is anyone
> intimately familiar with the jumpers on these drives
> on this G3?  And with how to straighten this out??
> 
>      Can anyone tell me if using model-specific OS
> versions and just deleting or disabling extensions you
> don't need, is a problem?  I also tried installing the
> 8.1 on my Centris, and it seems to run everything I
> need it to, but the slightest problem, such as
> inserting an OS X -hosed floppy, will seize it solid.
> OS 7.6.1 shrugs the same events off ("Initialize this
> disk?").
> 
> Jim the Redman
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