Man-you really having thinking now. I put a ram stick
in my B&W and started having problems. I don't know
who made it. I don't know if you made my day or ruined
it. Thanks-I think.   LOL

--- Richard ramsowr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> it's not so much that the RAM sticks are bad - it
> that
> the maker didn't follow Apples's standards! OS 9
> just
> didn't care that much - but OS X DOES REQUIRE APPLE
> STANDARD RAM - that's the reason I started getting
> my
> RAM Sticks from RAMDIRECT.
> 
> rich
>
------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> --- Tom Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Jul 26, 2005, at 1:51 PM, David Dierlam wrote:
> > 
> > > how did you know you had bad ram? was there a
> > program
> > > or did you just start pulling?
> > 
> > Just started pulling, but I did it last,
> > unfortunately. After doing 
> > everything else possible, including stripping down
> > the computer to the 
> > bare bones one piece at a time, and testing after
> > each piece (hence the 
> > hair-pulling), I finally started pulling the RAM
> > sticks.  With two of 
> > the three sticks installed, no matter what slot
> they
> > were installed in, 
> > everything worked fine and OS-X would install.
> When
> > that third RAM 
> > stick was installed, no matter which slot it was
> put
> > in, X refused to 
> > install or run, although 9 continued to work
> > normally. That's what 
> > fools people, including me. You have to get it in
> > your head that 9 will 
> > apparently work fine with a bad RAM stick, while X
> > won't work at all. 
> > Or, as Mark wrote originally, it might work but
> > badly.
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > > --- Tom Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> All the hair-pulling frustrations that I had
> when
> > I
> > >> originally tried to
> > >> install X on this G-4 DA 733 turned out to be a
> > bad
> > >> memory stick too,
> > >> although it had worked just fine in 9 for a
> year
> > >> (although, who knows,
> > >> maybe it had been causing trouble that I
> > attributed
> > >> to other things).
> > >> And with other people reporting the same
> problems
> > >> here from time to
> > >> time, I have to wonder about quality control in
> > the
> > >> companies that make
> > >> these RAM sticks. Why so many bad ones?
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 26, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Marc van Gemert
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Maybe some of you remember me saying that OS X
> > >> (10.3.8) on my G4 at
> > >>> work (G4 933MHz) was so slow?
> > >>> Well lately I was getting freezes and kernal
> > >> panics (especially in
> > >>> Photoshop) so I suspected that I had some bad
> > >> memory. I have one stick
> > >>> of 256MB and one of 512MB, well after the
> 256MB
> > >> stick was removed all
> > >>> freezes and kernal panics were gone, and goes
> > >> what, suddenly I noticed
> > >>> a real increase in speed!! Opening windows in
> > the
> > >> Finder, opening apps,
> > >>> and opening docs in apps was noticebly faster
> :)
> > >> Strange, but true. I
> > >>> was really shocked 8)
> > >>>
> > >>> And luckily the speed is still there now after
> a
> > >> new 256MB stick has
> > >>> been added. Can't believe this is happening to
> > me
> > >> :) Then to think I've
> > >>> worked almost a year with that bad stick...
> > Can't
> > >> believe that bad
> > >>> memory can have such a negative effect on
> > overall
> > >> speed...
> > >>
> 
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