You need an external bridge, according to my research. I've looked for
the HP bridges on eBay, but they're still a little too expensive for my
blood. If I have to, I'll just put LocalTalk Bridge on my 6500.

I guess that means that the 4 ML does not have an MIO slot.

Yes, the external servers are expensive.  Depending on what your
budget is, you may wish to look at a LJ 4M or 4M Plus if you can find
one locally.   Shipping is more than they're worth.

A local store here was selling them for under $75 with ethernet MIO
card installed.   Of course, if you have other reasons for keeping
the 4 ML, then that's not useful advice.

I'm still using a TI Microlaser because of the small footprint.  It
takes up little room on the desk.

Still, the image of "a Mac & a (LocalTalk-connected) LaserWriter (or
other Postcript laser printer)" has gone together for 2 decades,

Apple dropping LocalTalk is a bit of a pain, but it has not impacted
me yet.  My beef is with printer manufacturers and USB.  Before USB
many printers came stock with a LocalTalk port at an affordable
price.  After USB, there's just USB, parallel and if you want a
network option, you're looking at a huge premium (often ~$200) for
whatever adapter they sell.

So with the advent of USB, we've gone from available affordable
networkable printers, to expensive networkable printers that often
require an inconvenient external box.   Grrrr.

Jeff Walther

Still, there are inexpensive USB-ethernet bridges out there, as 1 poster commented. I wonder if they need drivers? Probably Windows only...

One person emailed me off list to suggest a USB-to-parallel printing kit, also fairly inexpensive. The LaserJet 4ML is supposed to have a parallel port; I just don't see it on the outside anywhere. Maybe it's inside the little covered bay in the back left corner where the serial cable goes in, but I'll have to move a bunch of stuff in my setup in order to access it & see.

Oh well, I want to invest in New World stuff, or stuff for the beige that can be moved to a New World machine, if I ever upgrade before the Macintels are out. I first put X on the beige, mostly with having a little "sandbox" to play with it in, & get acquainted with X -- well, because it's time. I wasn't planning to be doing any serious work in it, as all of my "heavier" apps are Classic still, but amazingly in the last month or so I have been running it on & off I've grown to like it a lot -- as you can see from the header, I'm using Mail all the time now, when I can help it, that is, when I have an excuse for loading X. Goodbye Outhouse Express! Not that there haven't been a few dust-ups...

Now, to top it off, my SCSI Umax scanner (Vistascan S-6E) doesn't like being turned on when I boot X, it causes my 1 SCSI hd, on the built-in SCSI bus. not to be recognized by the system. I just noticed that, since I usually don't have it turned on. It happens consistently, though. Scanner is terminated as per instructions, no ID conflict, works fine booted under 9.22. The driver is pre-x, (VistaScan 2.4.3), though, & doesn't work under X. Last officially supported under 9.1. Guess I'll have to get a USB scanner. At least they're ubiquitous, & cheap (often in both senses!) In the meantime I'm putting Classic on the 2nd partition of my IDE drive, & remove the SCSI drive, & see if that helps.

--

Bill

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