On Sep 17, 2005, at 5:41 AM, Brian McEwen wrote:


On Sep 15, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


You WIll do 'sudo rm -rf *' in the wrong directory and while you will live to regret it, your data will not.

I know two sysadmins do did this, as root, in the root directory. Not pretty. One managed to kill the process in time to save the data directories.



rm just removes the inode information, right? The data is still there; there are un*x tools to rebuild that; isn't there one built for OS X?


All of them depend on the data being recognizable text so you can fine the pieces and string them together.

This doesn't work so well for binary files. It'd be a little like getting a bushel full of crosscut shredder output and trying to re- assemble it into the original documents, except some pages are in several languages you don't know, and others are bits of magnetic strips.

There are programs for OS X that are supposed to help you recover files, but I don't know how well they work with deliberately deleted files. They may depend on the fact that the file system is actually HFS; I'm not really sure at a lower level how the format ties in with the unix inode file system.

(Believe me, I spent a weekend researching this issue when I thought I'd lost my entire users directory in a seemingly catastrophically failed Tiger upgrade.

It turns out my data was only misplaced, not erased, but the available info on recovering lost data from Unix systems is pretty universally bleak in outlook.

Recovering from rm -rf / that way is not practically possible...if you could do it, it would take you less time to rewrite Unix, from scratch.)

I also set up a serious backup plan after that! After all the EASIEST file recovery is copying the data back from a backup...

I don't think I'm totally off base, but my unix skills are only those that I've had to gain thru immediate need :) Last time I had to hack my way thru a filesystem at low-level was in the time of MFM drives.

Well, at that you've got more recent experience than I. My last encounter with Doing It The Hard Way involved a sector editor and an Apple Dos 3.3 disk where I accidentally overwrote a very long Apple Basic program with a three line file.

--
Bruce Johnson

"No matter where you go, there you are", B. Banzai


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