At 08:56 AM -0400 09/30/2005, Steven Wood wrote:
A couple of things on PayPal:
1. Another way to distinguish a phish is that a truly secure site like PayPal displays a URL beginning with https in your browser; the "s" is for secure. If it is not there, you can be sure it's a fake; if it is there, well, I still wonder if some clever crook has gotten around that, too.

In the ole'days, the certificates required to do SSL cost a lot - $5,000 to $50,000 per year. But these days, they can be had for $100/year or so. Most phishers aren't running their own web servers, but as it becomes more profitable I'm sure they will!

Another problem is that many sites are secure, but don't use https urls. They use a normal page, then pass the username and password to their server using SSL. Since that's happening within the form submission, you don't see the "https" even tho it's really there. They do this because running whole sessions under SSL is expensive.

So checking for "https" is simply no longer useful.

What is useful?

1.  As you said:  NEVER use those links sent to you via email.

2. Check the *top most* Received header. This header is added to the message by YOUR (trusted) local mail server. It indicates what server actually handed the email to it!

A *real* eBay email will look something like this:

  Received: from mx21.smf.ebay.com (mxsmfpool11.ebay.com [66.135.209.208])
          by sccrmxc21.comcast.net (sccrmxc21) with ESMTP
          id <20050904183339s21001uiq0e>; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:33:39 +0000

Note that 66.135.209.208 is an IP address that actually *belongs* to eBay!
 208.209.135.66.in-addr.arpa  PTR   3600    mxsmfpool11.ebay.com

Paypal.com and Half.com are set up the same way.

Here's a spoof:

  Received: from aputeaux-153-1-55-56.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr ([82.124.177.56])
          by sccrmxc22.comcast.net (sccrmxc22) with SMTP
          id <20050915205349s22001pufve>; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:54:22 +0000

That came from wanadoo.fr, a French ISP, NOT eBay!


The above check will screen out 100% of all eBay/Paypal/Half phishes.


And finally, for those companies too stupid to set up their mail servers properly...

3. View the mail in its raw form and look at the actual URL you're going to click on. It won't be pointing to the right site.



2. Mr. Osburn said, "But the fact remains that I'm *NOT* a business...and the expectation (demand?) that a private party should act like one and take credit cards seems presumptuous, to say the least."

Actually, if you are buying and selling, you ARE a business and you DO need to act like one, just like flea market sellers should. I'm a tax professional and I assure you the IRS considers you a business on that basis alone. Once they find you, if you are making a profit they will want not only income tax, but self-employment taxes--another 7.65% for Social Security and Medicare. If your state is one of the 41 with an income tax, the IRS will notify them and they will demand their cut as well.

Blew my mind when the IRS auditor plopped a complete hardcopy of my eBay transactions onto the table! Luckily, for that year, it was mostly cost recovery stuff. So the guy let me slide.

...Tells you something about Big Brother. eBay doesn't maintain their completed auction database for too long - just too much data. And the listing the auditor showed me was more indepth than the standard monthly eBay invoice. So either eBay maintains more, and the IRS has access to it. Or the IRS is spidering!

- Dan.

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