>
>On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:23 AM, Jeff Walther wrote:
>
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:52:23 -0400
>>> From: "Tyler W. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: [G] Moving hard drive from ATA controller to built-in
>>>  controller
>>>
>>> System: Beige G3 with SIIG Ultra 133 ATA PCI Card. OS 9.2.2
>>>
>>> I had a hard drive bootable from the built-in ATA controller. I
>>> installed a new drive on the SIIG card, intiialized it, then copied 
>>> the
>>> system from the built-in drive to the new add-in drive. I removed the
>>> built-in drive. Then I booted from the add-in drive and it worked 
>>> great
>>> - quite a bit faster too.
>>>
>>> Then I took a shot at updating the SIIG firmware, but it failed. So I
>>> tried hooking the SIIG drive to the built-in controller, but it was 
>>> not
>>> recognized. Is this expected? Is there a way around it?
>>
>> Yes.  The formatting scheme for the built-in IDE controller is 
>> different from the scheme for the IDE controller card.   You must 
>> re-initialize the drive to move it from one interface to the other. Of 
>> course, re-initializing destroys all data on the drive.
>>
>> Jeff Walther
>
>Not true.  The definition directly from PC Magazine:
>
>(2) (Integrated Drive Electronics) A type of hardware interface widely 
>used to connect hard disks, optical disks and tape drives to a PC. IDE 
>was always the more economical interface, compared to SCSI. Introduced 
>in the mid 1980s with 20MB of storage, capacities increased a 
>thousandfold in less than two decades.
>
>With IDE, the controller electronics are built into the drive itself, 
>requiring a simple circuit in the PC for connection. IDE drives were 
>attached to earlier PCs using an IDE host adapter card. Subsequently, 
>two Enhanced IDE (EIDE) sockets were built onto the motherboard, with 
>each socket connecting two drives via a 40-pin ribbon cable for CD-ROMs 
>and similar devices and an 80-wire cable for fast hard disks.
>
>Admittedly this is from a PC rag, but they were the first to use widely 
>use IDE drives.  I've moved IDE drives from several different machines 
>over the course of my computing history with nary a problem.  The 
>interface card is just that, an interface from the motherboard to the 
>drive, but the controller itself resides on the drive. Perhaps the 
>on-board controller is bad? HTH
>
>Just a message from Doug...
>

You haven't mentioned the drive's size...  if it is bigger than 128GB, your 
on-board controller cannot handle it.  Also, FWIW, I too have moved drives 
around from Mac to Mac, PC to Mac and so on, and keeping in mind the size 
retriction I just mentioned, never had a problem.

My $.02

Daevad

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