The memory issue I'll let go because I didnt experience directly. But I
worked on a Gateway that used a PS that was ATX as far as the size and
shape,
and voltages, but the holes for mounting did not line up. If you consider
drilling new holes in the case easy then yes it is easy to get an ATX
working in
that Gateway I was working on. BTW, it was a Pentium II I believe.
And I have a friend who worked for NCR for over 3 years. His job was
vastly varied, but he was a certified Dell technician for one thing. But,
he
also worked on most systems, and he brings up Gateways use of tabs to
prevent the
use of regular CD drives all the time.
Oh, and I also worked on my brothers Gateway. It was a Pentium II, and
I
could not remove the processor. It was held in with plastic pieces that
prevented an easy removal. I also recall the motherboard appearing not to
be ATX.
This computer was clearly not made with any intentions of making
disassembly
or upgrade of the processor easy.
Old Gateways and Compaqs were both incredibly proprietary, disgustingly
so. I am happy that in all of your years as a tech you've never
encountered
one of these machines. But please don't tell me what I'm saying us bull,
because it's not. I have seen with my own eyes. And my friend who worked
for NCR
Im sure has seen A LOT more PCs in his 3 years than yours.
Chris P
So you are admitting that you and your friend do not know how to disassemble
a computer? That plastic piece easily lifted away from the CPU and was there
for air flow. We are talking about the Gateway 2000, G, etc series right?
I'd hate to see you fuddling with an old iMac.
These PC's were made that way for easy assembly along the line, because they
made a lot of them, because they were in demand. You should know this since
you claim to have seen more of them than me. Maybe you have, but you only
need to see one to know how they come apart. And those old PII Compaqs that
switched between desktop and tower had directions on the side panel of the
chassis, and thumb screws. The Presario EN series. Even so the old socket
Celeron and AMD ones were small, but incredibly easy to disassemble.
In fact I just put a brand new micro ATX mobo, Sempron, and full size ATX
PSU inside a Compaq mini tower that used to house a Celeron 500. 'Prosigna
Desktop'. It works great, never overheats, yada. My fiancé is playing WoW on
it right now.
I wouldn't call that proprietary. Why are we arguing this on a Mac list
anyway? Seeing as Macs are the epitome of proprietary.
-Mike
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