On 29-11-2008 23:07, Kris Tilford, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:

> On Nov 29, 2008, at 3:55 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:
> 
>> Thanks but i think i solved it. According to apple the pram will
>> only hold a 3-5 hour charge without being plugged in and without a
>> main battery present.
> 
> Does this mean you drained your new PRAM battery dead in 3-5 hours
> since you didn't have a good main battery? If so, I see why the next
> generation did away with the PRAM battery completely and just used the
> main battery for PRAM.

Well Kris, read my answers to Jonas, will say enough.
And an easy list about Apple Notebooks (IIRC, being 65):
No PRAM battery:
 All iBooks
 All Intels
 The PowerBooks up to and including the 1400's
 The PowerBooks G4 from January 2005
With PRAM battery:
 All PowerBooks G3
 The PowerBooks 2400c, 3400c and 5300 Series
 The PowerBooks G4 up to and including the Q41A (17" 1.5GHz)
 
Jo Hissel



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