On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, lampbay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Running any form of Windows or Microsoft software on my Mac is not
> the issue - not because I dislike MS software, but because I prefer
> Apple and Mac software.  Plus, I don't want to have any pesky bugs to
> deal with - that's the main reason I switched to Apple - afterwards I
> discovered what a pleasure working and playing with a Mac is.
>
> Here's an example - the G4 eMac had a Pioneer or Sony combo or
> superdrive, higher-quality name brand hard drives and a CRT screen
> for those who prefer them to LCDs.  The pre-Intel Apples were
> manufactured better - the machines are sturdier and the parts last
> longer.  Why get technical about the logic board and the case - the
> facts are that the newer Macs - with the possible exceptions of the
> most expensive MacPro and the new aluminum "brick" MacBook Pro - are
> built with cheaper parts and with less quality than the older boxes.

I don't think Bruce will believe you on this.  I have been saying they
are just built from PC parts now but he insists they are premium
quality same as before and he should know.
U of Arizona probably has lots of Intel Macs.


> Which would you rather have - a Seagate or Western Digital hard drive
> or a Toshiba?  How about a Pioneer DVD writer vs. a Matshita?
>
> Actually, I'd prefer a Mac mini (that I had bought at a low price -
> even a refurbished one)  that I'd remove the hard drive and
> superdrive from, allowing it to run much cooler.  Then I'd plug in my
> externally-powered boot drive, externally-powered DVD writer, CRT,
> keyboard and mouse to USB ports.
>
> What I want from Apple is higher quality hardware at a lower price -
> because I paid more than for a PC to get not just superior software,
> but, at least, comparable quality hardware to the best that I can buy
> off the shelf or online.   Now, I will admit, that PCs have gone the
> route of cheaper insides as well and that is due to the marketplace
> and the fact that just about everything is manufactured and assembled
> in China and the far East.

Yeah one would not want a mobo from Asia like ASUS makes.  Hey! wait a minute !

Apple has dropped the price a bit on
> their latest notebooks but they are still asking too much for their
> hardware - but that has always been an argument that since Apple
> provides a superior software product and the hardware it runs on is
> designed and engineered to work flawlessly (for the most part) with
> that software as well as that produced by other developers who follow
> Apple's exacting specs. Apple could make me happy by allowing users
> to buy a version of Mac OS (?) that will run on our choice of PC
> hardware -


That's what Bruce calls the " wanna cheap mac gear syndrome " he hates that.



say a DIY homebuilt that has exactly what we want in and
> outside of the box.  My main complaint with Apple, since the move to
> Intel, is that the hardware inside their boxes is getting poorer -
> except for the performance of the Intel chip and the memory you can
> add yourself.  Plus, the heat of packing so much into a small space
> can contribute to early failure of parts.  Both Intels I've used were
> sent in for warranty repairs - logic board failure and superdrive
> failure - both within one year of purchase.

It would be nice to have a mid tower for the same price wouldn't it?


A portion of us here have been advocating this for a while Lampbay.

Adrian

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