On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, PeterH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote:
>
>>>> Perhaps zero cost for the hardware, but IBM will charge you one
>>>> hundred thousand dollars PER MONTH, or more, for the software
>>>> license.
>>>
>>>
>>> Even if I don't give it a line to call home? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> You only have to pay that if you use IBM's software.  By then, I'm
>> sure
>> there will be "other" software available.
>
> If that hardware is System/370 (perhaps the earliest usable hardware
> at this point), then you DO have to option of using certain System/
> 370 software which is public domain, and that generally means MVS/370
> Release 3.8j.
>
> It is still very capable software, bit it is still over THIRTY YEARS
> OLD.
>
> Any software after that will be a Program Product, and will be
> charged-for, even though it may be an unsupported release.
>
> Certain System/390 products are much, much more current, but all of
> that is Program Product.
>
> Same comment for z/System.
>
> Bottom line: you might be able to pick up some IBM enterprise-level
> servers (or systems) on ePay, or elsewhere, for a song, or even for
> free, but you will pay for the software license at the current
> "tier", which is low for single processors, and is proportionally
> much, much higher for 16-way processors [ * ] .
>
> IBM software does not "phone home", but IBM has its ways of
> discovering illegal use of its Intellectual Properly, and I
> personally know of at least four cases where IBM sued for violation
> of its IP license terms and conditions, and the settlement amount was
> $500,000,000 (yes, five hundred million dollars) for each count.
>
> The actual license charge would have been much, much less, of course,
> but IBM received a stepped-up settlement on the basis of a blatant
> disregard for its IP rights.
>
> [ * ] A relatively full suite of operating system and utility
> software for a dual processor System/370 could be $120,000 per month.
>


Does that include glassware featuring the latest super hero movie art
and a set of steak knives?

Hey, just asking here! :)

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