On 1/2/09 7:25 AM, "Steve R" <mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com> Broadcast into
the ether:

> With Apple going the Intel chip route, I'm wondering if the chip on a
> purely Mac OS (and not being used for Windows) is faster/better for
> Mac apps?

A few things that a lot of these other wise posters are failing to mention
is the fact that IBM and Motorola have been letting Apple down with promises
of "this speed at this time" for years.  They have time and time again
failed to deliver the processor they promised to Apple at the time they said
they could.  Couple that with the fact that their manufacturing process that
just stinks by comparison to Intel.  The IBM PowerPC 970FX (a.k.a. G5
Processor) originally was fabricated on a 121nm die (970).  Then with the
advent of the 970FX they were able to reduce the die to 65nm (which is still
huge by standards).  The larger the die the hotter the chip runs.  Current
Intel chips are made using a 45nm die process.  This makes them cooler and
more stable. So with Apple wanting to push the speed (especially in it's
laptops) it was basically stuck in "G4 land" speedwise due to the G5 (970)'s
heat issues.  So it was a "roadmap issue."  Meaning that Intel had a
brighter future down the line than IBM or Motorola (or AMD for that matter).
Early in the 1990's Apple, IBM and Motorola had an alliance called AIM
(named with the first initial of each company).  IBM and Motorola had
differing philosophies on how to proceed with the RISC chips with regard to
extended instruction sets.  Apple wanted speed and both Motorola and IBM
wanted to focus on imbedded application markets (like routers, PDA's, MP3
players or even complicated control systems). With Apple choosing Intel as
it's processor supplier AIM has basically been dissolved.

And I disagree with a previous poster who said that "IBM will catch up and
blow Intel away."  Intel has a roadmap that no processor developer is going
to be able to catch as far as speed goes.  They are by far the best desktop
and laptop chip maker in the world.  I speculate that IBM and Motorola will
go off onto their tangential projects and highly specialized imbedded
application markets and do quite well, but not in the mainstream computer
market.  Now if only ATI and Nvidia could find a clear winner.  ATI had made
marginal gains in the graphics processor market but recently leapfrogged
Nvidia (my graphics proc of choice) with the new 4800 series.  Ugh.


Kyle Hansen
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This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter.



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