Please take me off this list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve R" <mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com> To: <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Top Posting (read up)
> > Please, sir, where does Dan Knight, List Mom, on his updated > 2008.02.15 webpage, continue to insist that bottom posting is the > only way to post? See content of that page below the link you posted. > > Kyle, I wish you no ill -- perhaps it was when you resigned from > being List Nanny that Dan Knight, List Mom, posted to all lists > saying that the 'banned for top posting' rule was no longer being > enforced because Apple Mail even had its default for top posting. > Just in the past week, someone reposted Dan Knight's email complete > with headers to verify validity of the email. Dan Knight's email said > bottom posting was preferred however it was up to the individual > poster to determine how best to reply. > > Surely, Dan Knight's email can be found in the archive. > > Steve R > > At 10:54 PM -0700 6/12/09, Kyle Hansen posted: > >> http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> > > Netiquette for Email Lists > updated 2008.02.15 > > > There are informal rules of Internet communication which are termed > netiquette to help people use proper etiquette within forums and > email groups. Some examples of poor netiquette are not signing > messages, sending unsubscribe messages to the posting address > (instead of the administrative address), or TYPING IN ALL CAPS (which > is the equivalent of yelling). > > The Internet is a dynamic environment and netiquette evolves over time. > > Some rules for the Low End Mac family of mail lists: > > Remember that replies automatically go to the list, not the just the > person who posted the message. You need to change the To: address to > respond to an individual. (Some other lists, such as Mac-Mgrs and the > Low End Mac Swap list, work just the opposite way. On those lists, a > reply goes to the original sender by default, not to the list.) Never > post private (off-list) correspondence to the list without the > permission of the sender. > > Please quote only the relevant portion of messages you respond to - > and please quote some of the original message so others know what > you're responding to. > > Mom and the nannies are watching. The list managers (the List Owner > or "mom" and List Managers or "nannies") have the right to remove > posting privileges or ban anyone from the list for vulgarity, > trolling, flaming, name calling, threats, or other behavior > detrimental to this online community. They also have the right to > switch you to moderated mode* for continued violations of the list > rules and netiquette; this could escalate to blocking or banning if > the infractions continue. > > Never send attachments to the list. An attachment may contain a > virus, may be in a format others cannot use, may not make it through > some mail gateways, makes the message bigger, and could bog down both > the list server and the mail server. > > Don't send styled text or HTML files; only send plain text. Styled > text may or may not come through as an attachment, but it is very > difficult to read with a plain text email client. Google Groups will > accept styled text and attachments, and this can result in garbled > digests. > > Style your posting - ASCII style. > > Please keep "me too" messages off the list; these are best sent > privately, if at all. > > Never send test messages to the list. Test when you have something to > say to the list by saying it, not by sending a test message. > > Please avoid cross posting - sending the same message to several > lists at the same time. Pick the list most likely to help, post > there, and if you don't find what you need in that forum within a day > or so, try another list. > > Let sleeping threads lie. If it's been over a week since the last > posting in a thread, consider it dead and buried. > > When asking a question, please list relevant information regarding > hardware, software, and version of the Mac OS involved. > > Change the subject line when the subject of the thread changes. If > you don't do that, Google Groups will thread it with the old subject. > > When responding to a digest post, be sure to change the subject to > match that of the original message. > > Signature lines > * Signature blocks (sigs) are considered personal expression as long > as the poster's name comes between the body of the message and the > sig. > * Please keep your signature concise. Six lines or less is best. Ten > or more is excessive. > * Many email clients wrap text at 80 characters or less (sometimes as > little as 72); check that your signature doesn't wrap badly because > of this. > * Taglines should be clearly separated from the body of the email and > should come after your name. > * Avoid vulgar and offensive taglines. > > Don't use PGP encryption on your messages. A lot of people (probably > most) can't even use it. > > Disclaimers and authentication. Please don't include corporate > disclaimers or PGP authentication when posting to the list. > > Treat your list neighbor as you wish to be treated. Address breaches > of netiquette privately, not on the list. Assume the best, not the > worst. And please notify List Mom if things seem to be getting out of > hand. > > Although subscribers may offer specific equipment and services to the > list or share an exceptional bargain they have discovered, explicitly > commercial postings are prohibited on our lists. Any address or > domain posting such will be blocked. > > Items for sale should generally be posted to the LEM Swap List. > Exceptions are made for regional lists (Canada, UK, Australia) and > non-Mac lists (Apple II, Lisa, Newton). You many mention a specific > item you are auctioning on the appropriate list - however, auction > postings are prohibited on the Swap list. > > Do not send subscribe, unsubscribe, or mode change messages to the > list posting address. Follow the instructions in each message or > digest to unsubscribe or change mode. You can also manage your > subscription online. > > Vacation mode - switch to "no email" mode. Do not send vacation > messages to the list. Most mail servers and email clients that > support vacation messages also include a "don't respond to lists" > option. Please use it if you set your email client or server to > vacation mode. > > Never post with a fraudulent email address. This is grounds for > immediate banning. > > Please follow established standards when posting acronyms, > abbreviations, and the like: > * RAM is an acronym for Random Access Memory. ROM is an acronym for > Read Only memory. Acronyms should always be capitalized. SIMM and > DIMM are also acronyms. > * Mac is short for Macintosh; MAC is an acronym for Media Access > Control, the hardware ID of ethernet circuitry. > * Please capitalize these Apple trademarks as follows: iMac, iBook, > PowerBook, MacBook, Mac mini, LaserWriter. There is a space in Power > Mac, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro. > * Capital B means bytes; lower case b means bits. Hard drives and RAM > are invariably measured in GB and MB, while USB, ethernet, and > FireWire speeds are usually specified in Mb per second. > * Hertz are named for a person, so the H should always be > capitalized. The z is lower-case, as in kHz, MHz, and GHz. > * for more on this topic, see our Mac Web Style Guide For more > information on the role of the list mom, the nannies, terms we use, > and discipline policies, see our Rules of List Management. > > Dan Knight, list mom > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. 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