On Dec 2, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Dan wrote:

> At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote:
>> a minor wise point here -
>> 
>> if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to 
>> fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET 
>> OUT OF YOUR CAR - you are in no real danger provided your not a part of the 
>> ELECTRIC CIRCUIT
> 
> Correct.
> 
>> - the metal of your car is ELECTRIFIED but the tires will prevent it from 
>> burning since they act as a nice insulator.
> 
> Incorrect.  The tires are not made of pure rubber.  They are made from a 
> blend of rubber, synthetics, metallics, etc.  Then there are those pesky 
> steel belts.  IOW, your tires are *great* conductors. They are (luckily!) NOT 
> insulators.
> 
Incorrect, tires are not "great" conductors, they are POOR conductors, what we 
in the trade would call "Resistors".

> You don't get electrocuted, as long as you're inside the car, because the 
> current is passing thru the metal chassis, thru the tires, to ground.  Some 
> of the current is going thru you, but it's a trivial amount, as electricity 
> prefers the better route - thru the tires to ground.

It doesn't matter whether the car frame is insulated or grounded, it's a 
Faraday cage (more or less) so the current (if the car is  grounded) passes 
around you and the voltage (if the car is insulated) is equi-potential all 
around you so there is no voltage across your body.

> 
>> The way out of this is NOT TO STEP OUT as that will complete the electrical 
>> circuit and you will be toast.
> 
> Correct.  If you were to step out of the car, while still in contact with the 
> chasis, then the current would use you as the better route to ground.  That 
> would be bad.
> 
>> BUT if you can jump out BEING SURE YOUR TOTALLY IN THE AIR then you can exit 
>> the car with no problems.
> 
> But to take that flying leap...  Current jumps at the rate of about 10,000 
> volts per inch.  You better clear the car completely, *and* all the wet 
> pavement, by quite a bit...  This is totally not recommended.  The best thing 
> to do is just sit tight until the power is turned off.
> 

Agreed.  The only time jumping might be recommended is if something worse is 
about to happen.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"

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