Michael:

I think you might have misunderstood me. My 9600 is also the Mac edition, 
with DVI and ADC monitor connectors. I was not speaking of the *external* 
monitor connector, I was speaking of the *internal* connection for ADC on 
the card, and next to the AGP slot in the motherboard. In a MDD G4 and a G5 
they are not physically in the same position - in the G4 the connector on 
the card hangs out "orphaned", and does not plug into the ADC slot. So I 
was looking for a workaround for this. 

Thanks, 

Rob J.. 


On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:13:08 AM UTC-5, skyki...@verizon.net 
wrote:
>
> My Radeon 9600 is the Mac edition, and the monitor connectors pose no 
> problem. My monitor is a ViewSonic 930m connected via the DVI connector. No 
> problems with Safari, either.
>
> This is why I always look for genuine Mac components and have avoided 
> flashed PC cards.
>
> Michael McMurtrey
> Carrollton, TX
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:09 AM, g3-5...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> wrote:
>
>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics
>
>    - Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and 
> G5<#DCFF471C-2588-438F-90DA-7FC1067CD2A5@verizon.net_group_thread_0>[2 
> Updates] 
>
>   Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and 
> G5<http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/f6e50ddfa1a61d32>
>
>    frrob <fr...@earthlink.net <javascript:>> Dec 18 10:35AM -0800  
>    
>    Hello again:
>     
>    You'll recall my travails last week with the Radeon 9800 Pro that I 
>    couldn't get to work properly/reliably in my 1.25 gHz DP MDD. I 
>    finally 
>    gave up on it, and reverted to the stock 9000. 
>     
>    But I purchased a 9600 XT on eBay, which I received yesterday. The 
>    machine 
>    wouldn't power on with the card until I taped pins 3 & 11, which 
>    didn't 
>    surprise me. But I taped the pins and the machine started right up, 
>    and the 
>    card works fine, with a couple of caveats, which I'll get to in a 
>    moment.
>     
>    However, much to my chagrin, I discovered that the 9600 XT, and 
>    presumably 
>    other AGP/ADC video cards meant originally for the G5, does not have 
>    its 
>    ADC connector in the same place as the 9000, or other G4 AGP/ADC 
>    cards. The 
>    ADC connector for the 9600 is further back on the card than that of 
>    the 
>    9000. Color me stupid, but, never having poked around inside a G5, I 
>    did 
>    not know that the G5 and G4 had different physical locations for the 
>    ADC 
>    connector. I figured ADC was ADC. D'oh!
>     
>    So, though the card works, I've really gained nothing by getting the 
>    9600. 
>    I wanted an AGP/ADC card into which I could just plug my Apple 23 inch 
>    ADC 
>    display. I can use my DVI - ADC adapter with the card, but what I 
>    wanted 
>    was a straight ADC connection. 
>     
>    So, first question: my subsequent research indicates that the only 
>    AGP/ADC 
>    card that offers Core Image hardware acceleration, and will physically 
>    work 
>    with the ADC connector of the MDD, is the Radeon 9700, which, 
>    apparently, 
>    had a version that was designed for the MDD. Is this correct, or are 
>    there 
>    others I'm not aware of?
>     
>    Furthermore, there is one issue with the 9600 when I use it with the 
>    DVI-ADC adapter and my 23 inch cinema display. For some reason, and 
>    this 
>    *only* happens with the DVI-ADC adapter and the cinema display, when I 
>    load 
>    pages in Safari that have Flash content, Safari either hangs and 
>    becomes 
>    unresponsive, or quits altogether. I then get a dialog that says 
>    "Safari 
>    has quit unexpectedly. This may have been caused by the Flash 10.x 
>    plug-in." This only happens with the 9600 - DVI - ADC - 23 inch cinema 
>    combination. Any ideas what is going on here? I am guessing, but 
>    perhaps 
>    for some reason the Core Image hardware acceleration of the 9600 
>    (which the 
>    9000 doesn't have) doesn't play well with Flash and ADC? I can't 
>    imagine 
>    why, but there it is. 
>     
>    Finally, my second question, which may be moot, but: has anyone ever 
>    tried 
>    to somehow adapt the ADC connector of one of these G5 ADC cards to the 
>    ADC 
>    connector of an MDD? It seems to me that it could be done and could 
>    work. 
>    The ADC connector only has two leads, which supply power for the 
>    display, 
>    correct? It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some 
>    kind of 
>    franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. Anyone 
>    know 
>    anything out there? 
>     
>    Thanks, 
>     
>    Rob J.
>     
>    
>
>    Peter Devlin <pdi...@mail.com <javascript:>> Dec 18 07:47PM  
>    
>    > It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of
>    > franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. 
>    Anyone know
>    > anything out there?
>     
>    I've seen a G5 AGP Pro 8x card converted to work in a non pro G4 4x 
>    slot
>    - not a pretty sight. But afaik the adc in the mdd has two connections 
>    in
>    the agp slot - thus the taping of pins 3 and 11 on 8x cards which I 
>    believe
>    in the mac slot supply power for the adc connection. In between the 4x 
>    agp
>    mdd and the 8x agp G5 the layout of the slot was converted to agp pro 
>    design
>    to keep adc - apple should have gone for dvi/vga at that point (had to
>    eventually) but they have always liked to have their proprietary video
>    connectors going way back...
>     
>    Pete
>     
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