Thanks for the help. I just upgraded to tenfourfox 38.2.1 and it's noticeably slower. But there is other things going on because it wasn't too fast to begin with. The two slowest things on my network are most likely the G4 and a series 2 TiVo with a usb network adapter. Everything else, my tv, series 3 TiVo, the bluray and the charter had cable box should be ok. Thanks Mark
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Bruce Johnson <john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> > wrote: > > >> On Aug 30, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Mark Murphy <m.smurph...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I got an ap called net gear genie. I turns out I have eps enabled. >> When I got this router it was the latest and greatest gigabit. I have two >> gigabit switches, also netgear I thought my da G4 was also gigabit. > > Network performance is a multi-factored thing. The ‘gigabit’ specification is > for the wired ethernet portion of your router only. That doesn’t apply to > wireless, which is what WEP applies to. > > Moreover, the network interface is only part of the performance puzzle. > Apparent network speed (unless you’re taking care to measure it properly) is > affected by System I/O, and whatever programs you’re using. > > At work I was working with a professor who was claiming that n way was his > network port working right; his download speeds were too low. Gigabit > ethernet all the way through; it turned out that his bottleneck was poor disk > perfomrance on the Mac Mini’s he was using in the lab. The stock hard drive > in the Mini at the time was a horribly slow 5400 rpm SATA drive; when we > replaced the drives with SSD’s his download speeds went up by 45%. > > (he was downloading huge data sets from a NIH server, 100-200 GB) > > If you’re judging your ‘network’ speed by ‘how well I can browse the > internet’ you’re missing a bunch of potential bottlenecks: > > the originating site may be slow > your local cable environment may be congested > your router may be misbehaving > Your computer may be suffering slow throughput for any number of reasons: > slow Disk IO > slow memory > slow CPU (You mention this is a G4…compared to modern processors it’s an > antique) > Something else going on on the computers that are causing it to be slow. > > Software that’s not compatible. TenFourFox is a great product, but it’s still > not completely compatible with modern standards. Try a different browser; see > if you an borrow someone’s newer Mac for testing. > > I’d start with the suggestions I mentioned in my first email: > > Reset your router to use WPA and use a good hard password and limit your > router to only the devices you own. This will eliminate people leeching off > of your bandwidth. > > Reboot your G4 in safe mode (which clears a number of caches that can cause > system performance issues), then restart it normally. > > Ensure that your web browser is the only thing running on the G4. > > turn everything off but the G4, then use a non-flash network speed test, as > noted in the earlier email. > > Do the same tests, but with the G5 and/or your iPhone (and with the G4 turned > off) This will eliminate/point to hardware issues with the G4. > > Do this at different times of day, too. Depending on their topology, > Charter’s network could well get really slow in the evening, when everyone > queues up a netflix show or something. > > THIS will be the best test you can do, imo, of your actual network speed to > your door. If that isn’t up to speed it’s either your cable modem or it’s > Charter. > > If those tests show a good speed, then the issue lies elsewhere in your > systems; and it’s less likely to be the network than the computer software > and hardware, or it’s the sites you’re using (even the fact that those have > slowed down over time is not an indication that it isn’t their fault…) > > It’s a slow process; you need to test one thing at a time. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "G-Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/g3-5-list/IiXAnmnsyfA/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. 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