Bugs item #1646005, was opened at 2007-01-27 17:17
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Category: None
Group: 2.0.0 beta 6
Status: Closed
Resolution: Rejected
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Maik Wachsmuth (netswipe)
Assigned to: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Summary: autoaway invis

Initial Comment:
Hey there,

just checked out new gaim beta6 - great thing.
But what is really bothering: The autaway Message when beeing invisible, please 
remove it, that there is no away (perhaps choseable in the auto-reply plugin). 
The thing is, that everyone at once knows that I'm online, when messaging me.

Thanks! Great! =)
Regards, netti


p.s.: And please think of carry on working with the unicode support in 
awaymessages (see my last bugreports and wishes) =) I know you guys got a lot 
to do... but that would be the cherry on the cake ;D Thank you =)

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>Comment By: Maik Wachsmuth (netswipe)
Date: 2007-02-12 22:10

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mh.. okay =/

The thing is, that it would not be that bad, if away messages (for example
in icq) could be read by default. Unfortunatly this is not supported at the
moment. But I do understand that you guys have a lot to do and that you do
not have time for each suggestion. Therefore I have to live with this thing
and that's okay =)

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Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere)
Date: 2007-02-12 16:09

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This is why plugins exist.  While yes, it is entirely possible that you
know no one who is confused by a bit of text in a specific language stating
that a message is not actually from you, but is an auto reply, the fact of
the matter is that more people than not know at least one person they talk
to regularly who would be confused by it. This might be because they talk
to people using a variety of languages, or because they know a great many
people who have never seen a client capable of an autoreply, or because
they have particularly clueless friends.  All 3 categories exist (I know
this because I interact with all 3 categories).  We cannot support a
default to auto reply on protocols that do not have an inherent mechanism
to mark a message as such, because it raises the level of requested support
noticeably higher than the current implementation does. 

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Comment By: Maik Wachsmuth (netswipe)
Date: 2007-02-12 16:03

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mh.. und du you really think, there is a difference right now? Under this
conditions there is general sense in sending an autoreply.
In my opinion it makes more sense to declare a message as a autoreply... I
never had problems with that - everyone understood them.

However it's your programm, even if users advise you improvements.
Perhaps I will add it myself... let's see...

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Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2007-02-12 03:49

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Gaim did that a long time ago, and it caused confusion.  People would say,
"Why did you just send me a message that says "this is an automatic reply?"

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Comment By: Maik Wachsmuth (netswipe)
Date: 2007-02-11 21:59

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mh... the thing is that everyone who receives this autoreplies thinks that
it's been sent by the user. Especially normal ICQ users intpret an
autoreply as a message by the user and not by a plugin / the messenger.

It should be obvious for the receiver that this IS an autorepy (e.g. by
putting an "This is an automatic reply: " in front of the awaymessage,
because it could be understood the wrong way. You see?

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Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2007-02-11 20:43

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I'm not sure I understand the original bug report correctly... but I think
this is a design decision, and it is not something want to change.

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Comment By: Maik Wachsmuth (netswipe)
Date: 2007-02-11 20:03

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btw. I'm just testing the autoreplyplugin by clausomh
(http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1293090&group_id=235&atid=390395).
That's exactly what I ment... (apard from the fact that it crashes when
answering^^)

regards, netti

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