Just one extra thought on this-- If you leave your instance up all the time it 
may be worth looking into having a reserved micro instance up as the front end 
(cheap, or free, with your intro tier) with SGE submission disabled.  Then, 
enable autoscaling(max 1) of m1.large/xlarge instances.

-Dannon


On Mar 19, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Dave Clements wrote:

> Hi Enis, Greg,
> 
> I've taken stuff from my this email, and previous conversations with Enis and 
> put it in the wiki:
> 
>   http://wiki.g2.bx.psu.edu/Admin/Cloud/CapacityPlanning
> 
> Please feel free to update/correct/enhance.
> 
> Dave C.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Enis Afgan <eaf...@emory.edu> wrote:
> Greg,
> Regarding the performance of different types of instances, I came across this 
> and thought you might potentially find it useful: 
> http://cloudharmony.com/benchmarks
> 
> Enis
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Greg Edwards <gedwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Enis,
> 
> Thanks. Will try that re the storage.
> 
> Greg E
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Enis Afgan <eaf...@emory.edu> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Greg Edwards <gedwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've got an implementation of some proteomics tools going well in Galaxy on 
> AWS EC2 under Cloudman. Thanks for the help along the way.
> 
> I need to drive the costs down a bit. I'm using an m1.large AMI and it's 
> costing about $180 - $200 / month. This is about 55% storage and 45% instance 
> costs. That's peanuts in some senses but for now we need to get it down so 
> that it comes out of petty cash for the department, while the case is proven 
> for it's use.
> 
> I have a few questions and would appreciate ny insights ..
> 
> 
> 1. AWS has just released an m1.medium and m1.small instance type, which are 
> 1/2 and 1/4 the cost of m1.large.   
> 
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/ 
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
> 
> I tried the m1.small and m1.medium with the latest Cloudman AMI   
> galaxy-cloudman-2011-03-22 (ami-da58aab3)
> All seemed to install ok, but the Tools took up tp 30 minutes to start 
> execution on m1.medium, and never started on m1.small.
> 
> m1.medium only added about 15% to run times compared with m1.large, can't say 
> for m1.small. t1.micro does run (and for free in my Free Tier first year) but 
> blows execution times out by a factor of about 3 which is too much.
> 
> Has anyone tried these new Instance Types ? (m1.small/medium)
> I have no real experience with these instance types yet either so maybe 
> someone else can chime in on this?  
> 
> 
> 2. The vast majority of the storage costs are fro the Gemome databases in the 
> 700GB /mnt/galaxyIndices, which I don't need. Can this be reduced to the bare 
> essentials ?
> 
> You can do this manually: 
> 1. Start a new Galaxy cluster (ie, one you can easily delete later)
> 2. ssh into the master instance and delete whatever genomes you don't 
> need/want (these are all located under /mnt/galaxyIndices)
> 3. Create a new EBS volume of size that'll fit whatever's left on the 
> original volume, attach it and mount it
> 4. Copy over the data from the original volume to the new one while keeping 
> the directory structure the same (rsync is probably the best tool for this)
> 5. Unmount & detach the new volume; create a snapshot from it
> 6. For the cluster you want to keep around (while it is terminated), edit 
> persistent_data.yaml in it's bucket on S3 and replace the existing snap ID 
> for the galaxyIndices with the snapshot ID you got in the previous step
> 7. Start that cluster and you should have a file system from the new snapshot 
> mounted.
> 8. Terminate & delete the cluster you created in step 1
> 
> If you don't want to have to do this the first time around on your custom 
> cluster, you can first try it with another temporary cluster and make sure it 
> all works as expected and then move on to the real cluster.
> 
> Best,
> Enis
> 
> Using m1.small/medium and getting rid of the 700GB would being my costs down 
> to say $50 / month which is ok.
> 
> 
> Thanks !
> Greg E
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Port Jackson Bioinformatics
> gedwar...@gmail.com
> 
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