Kad Mann ha scritto: > On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 10:47 +0200, Doriano Blengino wrote: > >> Kad Mann ha scritto: >> >>> On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 09:08 +0200, Doriano Blengino wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Kad Mann ha scritto: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 22:46 +0300, Vassilis K wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dimitri I don't understand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Why don't you take a look at the database example in Gambas? >>>>> >>>>> After creating the test table, if you type in an SQL command and click >>>>> the run button, you will see a gridview with a myriad colours that can >>>>> be changed based on the data. Surely something like that has to be >>>>> easier than trying to work out how to manage a hundred labels on a >>>>> screen, and surely it will offer you much better and easier control of >>>>> future UI changes, and surely it will offer a more pleasing and >>>>> intuitive presentation to your user. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> "Surely something like that has to be easier" and "surely much better >>>> and easier control". >>>> Yes and no >>>> >>>> >>> I didn't ask you. >>> >>> >> True, and neither Vassilis asked you something... you can't understand >> him, but I can understand you. In one of your last mail you noticed that >> data controls don't have all the properties as other textboxes, such >> alignment and so on. Be prepared for other surprises. Everybody would >> love to have controls with lots of properties in order to do everything >> you want, but this is impossible (can you believe it? Once you have put >> 100 properties in a control, you will find someone asking for the #101). >> > > Of course, the point is, I didn't ask for the features. Did I? I asked > is the limitation by design, are there plans to change it, and is there > a workaround. > You are very precise... so I will do too. I didn't say *you* asked for features (did I?). Nevertheless you was talking about features... > Besides, do you feel it is unreasonable for someone to want "a box used > to show the contents of a Field or edit it", a data-bound control > intended to save programming time, to have similar functionality to a > TextBox? > No. > >> Real programmers prefer to do things their way, with few versatile >> mechanisms. >> > > So, who do you believe might not be a real programmer? > Are you expecting I say "you"? No. I don't know who you are, and even if I don't agree with you, I can not say you are not a real programmer. But BEWARE! In some future, perhaps I will do! Even at night! :-)
>> The more a component gets complicated, the less people >> understand it; just now, many problems arise from the fact that people >> don't read documentation, and even when they do, they don't notice some >> important feature; and often that feature is not exactly you need. >> > > So, you feel that if a DataControl was given similar functionality to a > TextBox, you might not understand it? > No, again it was a general talking. But are you sure you fully understand Columnview? I noticed that, for example, checkboxes lack the Autosize property. It would make sense that every control like labels, textboxes, checkboxes and data controls had a set of common properties. But for this kind of things gambas relies on either QT or GTK, and sometimes you find limits in them. Be prepared... I tried (and actually succeded) to write a file manager in gambas. But I faced all kind of problems, and I had to rewrite DirTreeView and DirFileView (or whatever is named). Do it it you too, then you'll better understand what I am trying to say. The more a component has functionalities, the more you will find they are not what you want. Hey guy, keep it cool. Regards, -- Doriano Blengino "Listen twice before you speak. This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
