Matti: Further to my previous, I am now a much happier little gambas man! I must say I am very impressed with how robust the openSUSE 12.2 install procedure seems to be, in order to withstand my clumsy and inexpert attentions. For any poor newbie who is reading this - and I guess the idea of installing gambas3 on Suse12.2 would appeal to quite a few - the following might be mildly interesting: I had done quite a bit of searching on the net before I started to install gambas3, and one set of instructions pointed me to the home:munix9:gambas repository which I tried. Then, the simple one-click install offered by openSUSE not seeming to work too well, I followed screen advice and used zypper to do the install. Result - I ended up without the gb-net-curl dependency. (Now not quite sure whether I needed it or not!). Anyway - the gambas3 IDE came up on command, but I had the difficulties outlined in my earlier reply to you. On the basis of your posting, I went to the gambasdoc.org site you suggested below and read same pretty carefully. The openSUSE reference was to Suse 10.2, hence my questions. The guide was a bit critical of the gambas install process from openSUSE and wanted me to delete all previously installed packages before installing by individual compile. So I went to the Suse 12.2 Yast2 software manager and started to delete the gambas packages one by one. That seems unduly tedious, but I could not find the key to deleting them all with a keystroke. I think I had knocked off two when I noticed that the Yast2 window showed not only the dependency version installed, but also the latest version available. So I thought, what the hell, I have all these installed, I might as well try and update them all to 7.1. So I did - although I cannot be sure exactly from which repository they came. I reasoned that, even if the openSUSE install of gambas might not have been up to scratch when Suse 10.2 was all the go, now time had passed and maybe problems had now been fixed - seeing we had passed through Suse 11 and now reached 12.2. So I tried gambas3 again and nothing seemed to have changed!! So I played and played around on the gambas window trying to find a toolbox for the serial and timer examples when fortuitously I right-clicked the Form name on the Project list and the menu appeared. I clicked "edit" and lo and behold, the window came to life and the toolbox appeared! Marvellous! So far so good. For an old sod working alone like I do, trying to get something to work is a bit like the difficulty a pin ball has in trying to get to the bottom of a pinball machine! On the journey you get stopped many times by simple things that seem so obvious afterwards and go ricocheting up to the start again! I had spent hours trying to get the toolbox to show on the gambas examples.
I have looked again at the very useful guide "getting started with gambas" and I cannot see any mention of right-clicking the Form on the list, although it seems obvious with hindsight and I'm still chagrined that it took me so long. One of the useful things about Windows is that there are often several ways to getting somewhere - redundancy for the novice. I accept that gambas is the work of a dedicated few and not a large corporation like MS. But one suggestion I would make is that: under the menu heading "Project" at the top, one item on the list might be "edit" and if that were selected, another menu listing the objects that could be edited could appear. If that had existed, I would have got there quickly. Now I realise that it is redundant and I would accept that the developers may not have time to deal with all such simple difficulties that the newcomer may have. However, it is a suggestion. The other difficulty I had was accessing the components (widgets) that I expected to find. I had no trouble with the instructions (in "getting started...") with getting the list of "components" and selecting gb-net. But all I saw was the same toolbox of basic widgets. Again, I played and played with it until, finally, I recognised a very small arrow > on the right, which, when clicked in exactly the right place and the right hand tab in the box selected, the missing tabs for "network" etc came into view. Only at this point did I know that my installation appears to be in order and the components I want are there. All very obvious in hindsight. Sometimes life seems more of a struggle than it need be! Thank you for your advice. Happy now. Carl Matti: Thank you for your helpful reply. (I'm not exactly sure how this mailing list works - I presume you and other subscribers receive this posting). Your reference to the install guide below is seems most helpful. .... Thanks for your time. Carl At 04:23 AM 28/09/2012, you wrote: >Hi Carl, > >I guess that the packager forgot a requirement. See >http://gambasdoc.org/help/install?v3 > >So, open YaST2, search for "libcurl" and install libcurl4 and libcurl-devel. > >Let's see if this helps. > >Matti > > >Am 27.09.2012 06:21, schrieb Carl Nilsson: > > Dear Moderator: > > I have installed Suse 12.2 mainly because I want to run gambas on > > Linux as an alternative to VB6 on Win2K in a modest embedded > > system. I'm a newbie at Linux (and gambas) but used zypper to > > (apparently successfully) install gambas3 from > > /munix9:/gambas/openSUSE_12.2/. However I got the message "could not > > install gambas3-examples gambas3-gb-net-curl" because "nothing > > provides gambas3-net = 3.2.1 needed by gambas3-examples > > gambas3-gb-net-curl-3.21-6-21.i586" Now, as a newbie I'm pretty > > interested in examples in general, so Question 1 is whether or not I > > should concern myself about that and Question 2 is how would I go > > about remedying that omission. I take it gambas3-net = 3.2.1 is some > > sort of dependency - how widely needed I am unsure. A quick google > > search suggests that gambas3-gb-net-curl (or at least one version) is > > a component package for "net-curl" - is part of a Fedora package for > > X86 64 machines. I am 32 bit (i586) at this stage, so maybe I can > > ignore the whole bit - and I don't need my gambas project to work > > on/with the net or with URLs, which I gather is what cURL refers > > to. 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