Hi Bryan, Let's hope it never comes to that, and I personally believe it won't come to that. Saying we will have no developers at all willing to develop audio games is a bit extreme.
After all, there are a number of audio game developers who for their own reasons write free accessible games who haven't had to put up with nearly the crap the commercial developers have had to put up with. Jim Kitchen, for example, has always given his games away for free, and because of that I think most gamers trust him. He never announces a new game until he releases it so there is no false signals or expectations for people to constantly bajor him over. Sure I know some of us have given him a bit of grief over some technical aspects of him game such as over VB 6 On 6/23/13, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote: > Sometimes things come up. Developers are in no way obligated to discuss > their personal lives on list. I agree it isn't right but nor is it right to > > constantly harp on what few developers we have. People keep that sort of > behavior up and the day won't be long in coming when we'll have no > developers at all. > > > > Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, > Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. > -----Original Message----- > From: MamaPeach > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:30 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn? > > You visit any other website or business like Ebay, Amazon.com, Walmart.com, > etc, , purchase a product, then you expect delivery of said product within > a > reasonable amount of time, say 7 to 14 days? Would you wait 6 months before > inquiring where your product is? I don't know anyone that would be willing > to spend their money on something and then wait for an unspecified amount > of > time to receive their purchased item and not get upset over not getting > what > was paid for. I don't see that it should be any different for developer's > of > games. People buy their products expecting to receive what they order, and > when it never arrives, they aren't supposed to worry about where it is or > why they haven't received it, and although they have written asking about > why they haven't gotten it, they receive no response for the person they > bought the item from? This just doesn't make sense to me and it isn't good > business practice, in my opinion. It makes me worry that if I choose to > purchase a game, that the developer's do not care whether we ever get what > we pay for. Six months? I know I would not appreciate waiting six months > for > something I spent money on. Patience is one thing, but come on, no one > should have to wait that long when it is their money they are spending. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Bartlett > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:02 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn? > > Sorry to say, but some people will never learn, and some people just don't > care, so the people out there like you and me that appreciat and respact > all > the hard work that gos into making a game. With that said thank you to all > the programmers and developers. Keep up all the hard work. > > bfn > James > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:00 PM > To: "audyssey gamers list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Subject: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn? > >> A thought on impatience: Some people gripe about the length of time taken >> >> by developers to come out with a new game. Some people gripe if they >> don't get a registration key right away. Some people gripe about the fact >> >> that they don't have enough games to play. Strangely enough, these 3 >> complaints come from pretty much the same few people. These are also the >> >> same people who want cheat codes very shortly after they get a new game. >> >> Have you noticed what always seems to happen when these complainers really >> >> get on a roll? >> >> James North produced many very good games and then quit. Why did this >> occur?? Liam has voiced frustration, to say the least, and has openly >> voiced a consideration of quitting. Why? Other producers of games have >> also vacated the premises. Guess why? >> >> I commend those developers who have stuck it out and continue working for >> >> those of us who do care about and respect them. For those of us who >> don't, and who only care about themselves and what they want, when they >> want it and no later, what's it going to take for you to learn what you >> cause? It's about time you grow! up! and think about someone other than >> you for a change. >> >> Yes, I'm angry, and I think I have a darned good reason to be. Although I >> >> don't create games, I care about those who do, and it just flat burns me >> up when you drive these creators away with your selfish and downright >> childish behavior! >> >> >> >> --- >> Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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