even recovery and reformat disks have graphical interfaces. even the most popular linux first boots into a graphical interface unless you get vinux CLI or grml console only linux.

On 10/21/2014 6:55 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know.
its one of my laments on computer stuff.
In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly.
An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year.
It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted.
You ran all your boxes into the ground.
People sadly do not think like that anymore.

At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,

Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of
generalizations about the younger players verses the older players
which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to
say all young people are like that.

I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older
than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger
may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console
games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games
and introducing them to the genre without prejudice.

Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was
by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot
of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers
appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art
sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal
graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d
graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had
tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be
regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to
older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some
of those older games can be.

As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to
black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is
either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he
loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him
too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as
good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the
individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type
of game.



On 10/20/14, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with
> text, and even audio games others are not.
> Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn,
> if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger
> generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to
> run, and an i7 then its crap!
> And if its for the blind its crap!
> and text is crap!
> I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not
> knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard
> for some, not all but some.
> For those  quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot
> this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so.
> At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who
> care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have
> experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready.
> for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder.
> I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles,
> and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross
> their minds and if they tried most would get lost.

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