Grace, As to players not giving out info, that's possible, though it doesn't seem to be nearly as common as it once was. However, I'll freely admit, I like to encourage people to explore myself.
However, that said, there's a number of ways to handle your navigation issues: 1. One friend of mine writes down notes about where he is whenever he accepts a quest and what the text of the quest is so he knows where to go back. 2. Alter does have a coordinate system. While i'ts not super useful for every situation, it can give general ideas of where areas are. If a quest gives a location you think you recognize, looking in the area list for that area name and is coordinates can at least give a general direction. 3. Asking people where a specific mob or town is usually gets results or at least a general direction. 4. You can map A.A. on excel, but you just have to take into account that room sizes vary a lot. A far better way that I found was to use a series of directions (something like the speed walk instructions on aardwolf) but include landmarks. So something like this: go all west from Ralnoth until you encounter a biomantically enhanced tree, go around the tree to the north or south and get back on an east west line til you see a lamp post. Then go south and trend west til you're on a fading road. Go all west then north then one east and you're 1 room south of the green dragon. Landmarks, the nearby command, the various map commands map -old, map -explored, map -blind, all help as does the coordinate system. No one of them is perfect, but combined they can make a powerful set of ways to find places again. Lastly, you can if you have people who are interested in it form direction maps to areas. My clan actually did this, then the mud map changed significantly. We started again, and while it's an ongoing and frustrating process (the map keeps changing:)) it does help. I hope that helps, Jeremy -- In the fight between you and the world--back the world! Frank Zapa --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.