Or cycling through a case of sd cards. That's a slightly frustrating experience, but it works.
On 12/17/15, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote: > You will not get a large amount of storage with a tablet. If that's a major > > point for you, its laptop or external hdd only. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:16 > To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets? > > Hi, > > Thanks for this. > > Do you know how well window eyes would work on 1 of these tablets? This is > the screen reader that I use. > > In addition, have you seen a surface? Are they any good? > > I've had laptops over the years and whilst I do like them, the biggest > problem I think for me with laptops is that they are quite heavy and the > battery never seems to last that long. > > > Having been an iPad user for around 3 years now I've gotten used to the > long > battery life an iPad bosts. I do use a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad. > > So yes I'm looking for something that's small ish but not too small as to > not be compatible with things, pretty powerful obviously with plenty of > space on the drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah > Rickard > Sent: 17 December 2015 15:03 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets? > > Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows > device for about a year. > It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the > moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g > varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where > you start seeing intel Core brand. > The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what > a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and > therefore suffers a little. > They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name > ones > like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any > games > that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth > mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine. > I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet, > so > if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations, > you can stop here. > As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter. > The > Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up > with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few: > the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other, > mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar > specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the > TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping > those straight). > My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a > bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also > bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the > keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I > suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and > mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer. > Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight > issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the > bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something > to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use > your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I > haven't > used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my > current > preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly > suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be > quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great > success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where > Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's > probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Android, though not > quite so good as Voiceover. It has the advantage of always working in every > prompt, something which NVDA (and JAWS for Windows, as I understand) don't. > It is good, in my oppinion, to learn Narrator at least a little. It's on > every Windows computer, and it's good to know it in case a better option is > unavailable for whatever reason. > Frankly, I strongly recommend a different tablet. The Nextbook Flexx 10.1 > and 11.6 inch are both good. Both come with a keyboard that sticks on with > a > latching connection. It includes a trackpad, and the keyboard has two > standard size usb ports, if you want to plug stuff in. Both the 10 and 11 > inch varients come with 2 gigs of ram and the same intel Atom processor. > However, generally the reasons for getting a tablet are multiple. Price is > generally a factor, as is portability. I have loved my Dell for that. It's > an 8-inch tablet, so there've been plenty of times where I could put it in > a > pocket. That's freedom. > The other reason is price. The Intel Atom equipped tablets are generally > cheaper than laptops all-round. > Let's keep these in mind. If you look into the Nextbooks, there are 7 and 8 > inch varieties. These do have 32 gb of internal storage which is fine, I'll > get to that in a second, but they both only have a gig of ram. 1 gb of ram > is, by me at least, untested. As for space, 32 gb can fill up pretty fast, > but frankly, most of our games deal best with being installed to a > non-default location, so using sd cards just makes sense. All Windows > tablets support up to 64 gb micro sd cards, and 32 gb cards are > particularly > cheap right now. Be careful and selective, and you'll have plenty of space. > I have appreciated my 64 gb tablet, but having 32 gb of space is not a > dealbreaker. Just keep in mind the ram. > The other reason I mentioned was price. There's no doubt. If you shop > around > and buy new, tablets are generally cheaper until you get into Microsoft > Surface territory and similar. That 11-inch Nextbook two-in-one (tech speak > for a tabletish laptop or a laptopish tablet) is, right now, a little over > $200. It gets cheaper. I've seen it down hovering just over $160 before. > Compare that to a basic laptop now. They start at $250 and go up rapidly > from there. > If portability is your reason for buying a tablet, prepare to shop > carefully. If price, prepare to spend carefully, but keep one thing in > mind. > The brand of processor in the cheaper tablets is the Intel Atom z3735 for > the most part. It's a quad core processor that generally runs at 1.3 or so > GHZ, though it boosts up to right beyond 1.8 GHZ. They always have 2 gb of > ram, never more than 64 gb of internal storage space. They are light, > generally last a long time, and are portable. > On the other hand, a basic laptop will often have a 500 gb hard disc. They > will generally have 4 gb of ram. Some last a while. There are two good > Intel > processors being used in lower-end laptops right now the n2840 and n3530. > Those are Intel Celeron. The n2840 is the dual core varient, and the n3530 > is the quad core varient. They run at a base speed of 2.1 GHZ or so and > boost up to 2.6 or so. Most, if not all, of our games do not naturally take > advantage of multi-core processes outside whatever process the program has > at runtime. What that means is that the dual core n2840 is arguably a > better > buy than the quad core z3735 varients. > You can sometimes find laptops with the n2840 for about $260 new, and the > n3530 for maybe $310 if you're lucky. > I've seen them as small as 11.6 inches, though that cuts out a cd/dvd > drive. > However, since you're looking at tablets, you wouldn't have one of these > anyway. > Ok, summary time. > In the 7 or 8 inch Windows tablet category, you will find very little with > a > standard usb port. If you want one, you'll need a usb otg host adapter, and > you won't be charging your tablet at the same time as plugging in your usb > whatever, because they charge via micro usb and usually have only one port. > With any tablets, be wary of those with 1 gb of ram. Also, be wary of any > with 16 gb internal storage. That's a little too small. You at least want > your screen reader on the same drive as your OS. > A basic laptop, so long as you shop carefully, may meet your needs as well > or better than a tablet. > > Further conciseness: > You get what you pay for. Go cheap and you'll get cheap. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 08:28, Darren Harris <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Has anybody tried gaming on a windows tablet? If so what tablets did >> you try and what screen readers did you use with them? In addition >> what specs and features should I be looking for in an accessible tablet > that can do gaming? >> Especially the likes of swamp? >> >> >> >> If anybody can give me some ideas then that would indeed be grand. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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