Hello Jim. I disagree with your statement that the vast majority of users will only have one account and don't need to worry about such problems. The reason I disagree with this is because who is to say that the vast majority of blind computer users have a computer which only they use. We have three computers here at home and two of them have multiple accounts, the main computer is the adult computer with accounts for me, my wife, and a test account. The second is the kid's computer with an account for me and one for my two older kids. The third one is a laptop computer which just has an account for me. So, in this example, I fall into what you say for only one computer, but not for both. My son Tristian loves playing BSC games and so under XP, I had to make his account an admin account just to let him play those games because you cannot play BSC games even under XP unless you are an admin. By doing this, I am able to play BSC games under my own account and he is able to play them under his account.
If everyone would follow standards of security and directory structures, then it would not matter whether there are multiple users or only one user on a computer. I'm not singling you out here nor am I saying I totally agree with all of Tom's statements, but on this one I do fully agree that things really should be installed in the correct place. On a side note, we had a similar discussion at GW Micro because for Window-Eyes 6.1, we changed the directory structure of where the user set files go. Previously they would go into c:\wineyes\users\default, but now they go into the Application Data directory for each user and under that the folder structure is "GW Micro\Window-Eyes\Users\Default making the entire path something like c:\users\Raul\bla\bla\bla\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\Users\default. Seems rather long, but that is the way Vista is and I frankly agree with it. Coming from a Unix and Linux background, it's about time that Microsoft stepped up to the plate and got more serious about security. People should not run admin accounts even in a single user environment, but that is straying off onto something else which is not for this list. What I'm trying to say is that although it seemed like you were being singled out, I don't think it was anything personal. Many game devs made the same mistake, and I'm sure not all of them were for games for the blind either. The best solution IMHO is to change the way games install their data and follow standards, so that regardless of whether it's a single user or a multi-user environment, they will just work. All the best. Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Yes, I doubt that I would have copped an attitude if like you have done now, > researched and stated that all older games are going to have this problem > rather than seeming to single out my games. I mean look at the subject line > of this thread. I have seen people on this list be hesitant to install my > games because of the things that you have said about them. Just like when > you decided to install my games in a manner that they were not designed to be > and started the whole discussion about my install program in my winkit.zip > file. In both cases it was because of the way that you set up and run your > computer, but you put the blame on my games. I would wager that the vast > majority of people who play accessible games are not going to set up and run > multiple user accounts as you have done and thus they will not have the > problems with my games as you have been posting about on the list. I know at > this point I should not get started on how much and badly you have put down > my choice of programming language or your complaint about not being able to change my sound files, but I definitely have felt the need to call you on your inaccurate statements about the problems with my games that you have then retracted or amended. > -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
