I'll say one thing before the topic closes. If you want to discuss this kind of stuff, go to nfbnet.org, and there are all kinds of mailing lists to subscribe to. Regards,
David Bouchard Executive Grand Communicator Watonala Lodge, Order of the Arrow > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Thomas Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org >Date sent: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:24:32 -0500 >Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator close topic dog guide's rights - >Hi listers, >Please, take the dog guide rights topic off list. I know it is important >to all of us in the visually impaired community, but it is off topic >for this list. <Smile >Charles Rivard wrote: >> Show them the laws regarding service animals. Maybe the school where you >> trained with the dog would help by backing you up with the authority that >> the housing authorities don't think you have. Also, let them know that you >> will, willingly, get the police and any other authorities necessary >> involved. >> --- >> If you don't stand behind our troops, >> please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org >> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights >>> It's funny, but I'm having to do something similar in my life. You'll >>> forgive me for straying from the topic of games briefly I hope, but I'm >>> having some difficulty with the housing authority letting me get a guide >>> dog. Right now they seem to think they can count the service animal as a >>> pet, so they're telling me that if I were to get a guide dog and later >>> want >>> a pet I'd have to get rid of my guide dog. But it goes back to what you >>> said >>> about companies not listening to you as an individual, but if you have >>> some >>> sort of atourney or other legal personality you at least stand a chance. >>> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org >>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights >>>> Hi Bryan, >>>> That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game >>>> and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might >>>> be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not technically make any >>>> money off the games. However, that still breaks the part of the end user >>>> license agreement that states that all sounds, music, pictures, etc are >>>> for my soul use, and may not be transmitted, sublicenced, etc without >>>> the expressed permission of the copyright holder. If so that really >>>> screws me if I want to even offer a free version of the game. >>>> What all this really boils down to is if I really want to work with >>>> copyrighted materials I will have to retain an attorney to give me the >>>> necesary legal view with copyrights to find out exactly what I can and >>>> can not do. Perhaps an attorney might be able to get some permission >>>> from the various licensing offices for the copyright holders to do what >>>> I want to do legally. Generally, speaking my previous experience with >>>> companies is they won't listen to you as an individual, but they will >>>> listen to your attorney if they make the request through more legal >>>> channels. 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