Thanks Charles. To continue this, we can go to the Otysey group, but I must say that the response you got is really awful, I mean, you think, every computer that a blind person in the whole world would use has these games on. Aparrently the Window Eyes people have made WE to work with solitaire, I mean, is it really too much effort for FS, especially when you think that WE users are just as capable of doing their jobs with GW Micro seeming to be more flexible on things. Looking at this as well, If I hadn't spent all the money on FS, I would have traded in both my products. For me, the Pac Mate has rubbish braille support, especially a person like me needing better foreign language braille, and not this computer braille for calendar and everything, and I don't think the upgrade from JAWS 8 to 9 was really worth much in terms of enhancements, it shouldn't have been a major upgrade. Ari
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