I should say on the copywrite thing, we all knew this would happen.
We really don't have much of a place in the sighted market not that we attempt 
to try, we are just to small.
People will tell us to stop but not to join us.
We really only have a voice on audiogames.net, its not like we will be going 
anywhere fast.
but we can at least try to keep moving.
At 02:45 a.m. 24/03/2008, you wrote:
>yep, and even though he was told to stop by violation of copyright. 
>those that prepaid still wine to see the game. A game that he 
>personally came out and said he couldn't make for copyright issues.
>i don't disagree with Tom at all. When it comes to legal aspects you 
>respect them more then those wining for something they can't have.
>
>At 02:05 PM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
>>Actually, the fact that we won't be able to preorder is not all that sad.  I
>>just means that the company won't be pressured by some gamers who have their
>>own deadlines they expect the company to meet.  James North set his own
>>deadlines, announced them and said that they were expected deadlines, then
>>ran into problems with the games and missed those expected deadlines.
>>Gamers got furious with the delays and griped.  He retaliated heatedly, and
>>finally got fed up with it, sold his finished games to Adora Entertainment,
>>sold his unfinished ones to Thomas Ward, and left.  Thomas got stuck with
>>the preorders and is now running into sort of the same thing.  The time he
>>has taken isn't the issue.  The type of game ordered versus the type of game
>>he now wants to produce in place of what was bought by gamers is the issue.
>>Fortunately for us, he has the willingness to produce some sort of game for
>>those who bought it before he got it, and then do more of what he really
>>wants to do with his time.  I hope Raceway will be what he envisioned it to
>>be when it comes out.
>>
>>---
>>Laughter is the best medicine.  Look around you and find a dose.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Willem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:29 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on mota
>>
>>
>> > It is sad that it came to this, but Thomas you have a point.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 2:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on mota
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Shaun and all,
>> >> You can forget about ever getting pre-orders. It is because of
>> >> pre-orders I am in the mess I am in today. Michael is right that
>> >> pre-ordering has been delt a faytal blow because of this. If I myself
>> >> hadn't taken a pre-order for the game I could have went 3D and no one
>> >> would have a right to complain.
>> >> From now on USA Games is playing it strait. I will hand pick a handful
>> >> of reliable beta testers I know and like, who do good work, and they
>> >> will be officially added to a private group of inside testers. When the
>> >> game is at 1.0 status that is when the public will be able to purchase
>> >> and play. You've all lost the right to pre-order and play over this.
>> >>
>> >> shaun everiss wrote:
>> >>> so do I, I will buy it no matter what.
>> >>> Heck I may even preorder for the test phase.
>> >>> There I have said it.
>> >>> I am willing to put my money where my mouth is  so who is with me.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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