for thr brazilian games we translate from you guys, with authorisation of the companies, we use jaws scripts to make jaws shut up when playing, heh -----Mensagem original----- De: James Dietz <james.j.di...@gmail.com> Para: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org> Data: Segunda, 30 de Novembro de 2009 17:38 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games
When I began regularly using NVDA I was thrilled to find out that it didn't conflict with games at all. JFW hogs the keyboard, making working with programs slow and uncomfortable at times especially if they're memory-intensive (Sound Forge). There are ways to subdue JFW programatically. Maybe developers should investigate them as I think JFW is the only screenreader which really makes it hard to play games without putting it to sleep or unloading. On 11/30/09, Jacob Kruger <jac...@mailzone.co.za> wrote: > http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe > > Stay well > > Jacob Kruger > Blind Biker > Skype: BlindZA > '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shaun everiss" <shau...@xtra.co.nz> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games > > >> weird where do you get the say tools from? I have most of the >> empowermentzone tools thanks to top tech tidbits but hmmm. >> At 06:32 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >>>The one thing is I've played around with Jamal Masry's SayTools where you >>>can get a program to talk using their screenreaders voice, or sapi if you >>>want to. >>> >>>Other joke is thought about creating a game using actual jaws scripts, >>>but, for example, to generate a random number, you'd have to make a call >>>to an external DLL or something. >>> >>>Stay well >>> >>>Jacob Kruger >>>Blind Biker >>>Skype: BlindZA >>>'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" >>><bpeterson2...@cableone.net> >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:44 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games >>> >>> >>>>I've never actually tried using Window-Eyes with Lone Wolf. I tend to use >>>> >>>>Sapi. But I am glad the game offers that option in case I ever decided to >>>> >>>>mix things up a bit for variety. And if I was to start developing games I >>>> >>>>would try to include options for as many screen readers as I could right >>>>from the outset so as not to seem like I was targetting one specific >>>>group of users. >>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>>>pizza? >>>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" >>>><thomasward1...@gmail.com> >>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:32 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Hi Bryan, >>>>>Well, don't forget GMA. As of Lonewolf 3.5 the game has Window Eyes API >>>>> >>>>>support. That happened because us non-Jaws users nagged David Greenwood >>>>>until he realized not all of his Lonewolf customers are Jaws users, and >>>>>we want the same access to the game as Jaws users. If he could use the >>>>>JFW API for the game he could use the same for Window Eyes too. >>>>> >>>>>In the end he finally added Window Eyes and Sapi 5 support in version >>>>>3.5. However, that might not have happened if there were not enough >>>>>non-Jaws users to maret such an upgrade. However, this is clearly a good >>>>> >>>>>case of how the developer uses Jaws, developed the game initially for a >>>>>Jaws user base, and finally was asked to include other screen readers as >>>>> >>>>>part of the games speech output. >>>>> >>>>>Cases like this sets a president that we can't assume what access >>>>>technology, if any, is present on the target computer. These days it >>>>>could be a free and open source solution like NVDA for all we know. >>>>>Therefore the game itself should provide all that is necessary for >>>>>providing accessibility to itself independant of any specific screen >>>>>reader or speech software that may or may not be present. >>>>> >>>>>Bryan Peterson wrote: >>>>>>The only company I've seen make allownaces is BSC Games, and that >>>>>>wasn't even a game. It was actually one of their Blindsoftware >>>>>>products, that Day-by-day Professional which offers support for >>>>>>Window-Eyes. But I still don't think they realize how well Window-Eyes >>>>>>meshes with games. I remember I forgot to unload WIndow-Eyes, which as >>>>>>I said I still do out of habbit, and I played a full game of Classic >>>>>>Pipe and didn't even realize Window-Eyes was still running until I'd >>>>>>quit Pipe. That was a welcome surprise. So I'm trying to unload >>>>>>Window-Eyes less when I play most audio games. >>>>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>>>>>pizza? >>>>>>Vender: No pizza. 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