I actually tend to agree with you Dark. We're so uptight about everything anymore. And those are the types of people who end up in power.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
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Hi Tom.

I will say, the us mix of religion and right wing politics who actually get in power and pass what are effectively deeply authoritarian laws scare me quite a lot.

While certainly in england there are parts of the country, and members of both Catholic and protestant churchs who would be pretty extreme (my brother once had a horrible experience when a vicar insited a church full of people to go and verbally yell at a man on a gay rights stand), I will say at least it's kept out of politics and gay marriage is actually officially legal (a friend of mine is a gay priest, ----- obviously one of the less extreme variety).

appologies if this sounds like us bashing, it is just something I've noticed rather heavily, just as disability atitudes tend to be better over there, toleration of many other sorts isn't, ---- such is my notion from both public media and the americans I've talked to anyway.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Hi Jim,
Well, I don't either, but I have a pretty good theory why that is. If
we consider that the U.S. is largely made up of Christians of one
denomination or another that's obviously going to reflect on the
public outlook on sex. Let's not forget in the 2000 and 2004 elections
most Republicans got elected by getting on the God, gays, and guns
compeign  platform. Afterwards we had very stupid discussions of
ammending the constitution to define mariage as a union between a man
and a woman. As though passing a law can stop homosexual couples from
having a relationship which it couldn't.
Personally, I feel what a couple, same sex or not, does in the bed
room is none of the government's business. The churches can mind their
own business, and stay out of peoples lives. They have no business
trying to tell everyone else what kinds of movies, games, etc people
should watch or play. However, they do have an incredible sway over
American politics and to some degree over public opinion.
In countries where Christianity is not the mainstream religion, such
as Japan, you find much more relaxed views of sex, and much more
sexual content. I know the Japanese have adult oriented cartoons and
games where sex is quite previlent.  Obviously, they don't have a
problem with that kind of content, but we certainly do here in the
U.S.


On 2/28/10, Jim Kitchen <j...@kitchensinc.net> wrote:
Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I don't know why sex is so taboo for so many people in the U. S. I have always thought that it was a beautiful thing. Now games, movies etc that combine sex and violence really get me upset. Some might say that is
what spanker does, but as I mentioned the motto is safe, sane and
consensual.

BFN

     Jim

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