And what sighted developer works eight to ten years on one game, that market would fall apart if that were the case.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
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That's exactly what I was getting at. I certainly wouldn't be willing to spend eight to ten years on one project, and to be quite frank I'm not necessarily enough of a team player to be willing to work with other people, not even people I knew well. That's an excellent way to potentially ruin friendships, particularly if you can't agree with your partner(s) on which way the game should go..
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Rivard" <woofer...@sbcglobal.net>
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The one-man game developing company is not an excuse. It's a fact, so, while it is a shame, we've got to consider it. No ifs, ands, or buts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
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Problem is there are a great number of people who wouldn't be willing to wait ten years for these games. I'm not saying we're not behind, because we are, but it's probably never going to happen. As has been pointed out endlessly, most developers are just single people, and even if you could find other programmers who used the same languages and whatnot, you'd also have to agree on creative matters as well, not to mention licensing. That's partly why Castle Quest was scrapped. It's not an excuse, it's cold hard fact.
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Here here. I second that notion. Also, I think sequels are iportant as well. a shades of dom 2, or a GMA tank Cmmander 2, something like that. There are so many games with the potential to have sequels. Also, I think bigger games need to start having cutseens. Games like GMA Tank Commander, while the radio transmitions are great, actual cutseens wouldn't be amiss either Voice actors might take a while to find, but I for one would be interested in taking that job. especially since the cutseens are simply recordings with voice and sound, no video. And the same games I brought up, with online features, would be great. I can only imagine playing shades of doom or tank commander with 6 other people in a full-fledged death match. Especially GTC. It would be great. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yohandy" <yohand...@gmail.com>
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when it comes to audio games, something I find quite annoying is the fact that many games aren't supported after initial release. even if they are, it's usually a small update a few days after game comes out just to keep up the hype and keep people buying, then after that the game never gets any sort of expansion. I think this is hurting the audiogames market, and developers are losing potential customers. what you guys aren't realizing is that people are even willing to pay for these expansions. mainstream titles do it all the time. let's say a new mainstream FPS game comes out and new levels are added after the initial game release, the developer could charge $5 for those additional levels and those interested will purchase it. or offer the downloadable content free and sell even more copies of that particular game. people get bored of the same old stuff, especially if the game doesn't have much replay value. we need DLC, and I don't understand why this hasn't been done yet. and that's not even the only problem. I think it's about time developers start adding an online component to their titles to make games a more social experience. no offense to any developer on this list, but I'd much rather go online and play a few rounds of super street fighter IV or some rock band than play most accessible games. why? because I'm interacting with people, not playing the exact same offline mode over and over. even if street fighter didn't have online features it would have been much more replayable than any accessible game out there mostly due to the trial mode the game contains, which can keep you busy for months. in fact there are people who've yet to complete trial mode on street Fighter IV and the game's been out for over a year! can you guys make such claims about audio games? back to online features. even the few audiogames that have online playability, we actually have to communicate through text, when most mainstream games are using voice chat, and even video chat! Is it all that difficult to add voice chat to games? I'm no developer so I'm asking because I like to be informed on these things. This is why when people ask me if we'll ever catch up to the mainstream market, I tell them that it'll never happen. devs need to really start concentrating on what the gamers want. and please I don't want to hear the "oh but audio games are only a 1 man operation" excuse. Take 10 years to develop your game if it takes that long, or Find developers who use the same programming language you do, and get together and form a programming team. but give us something good. something that we can be proud of 15 years from now and say wow! this game completely revolutionized the audio game market! as it stands now, most of the audio games I've purchased I just beat once in about an hour or so and never play it again, and this is probably true for many people on here. something needs to change, and it's up to all of us, developers and gamers alike to make it happen!


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