Ok, will try play around with setting default playback device to alternative, but, for anyone else out there, just be careful since when tried it first off just now, had to turn on narrator to then try reset it to prior setting to get eirther jaws or NVDA to work as such again, and narrator doesn't like that dialogue too much, so will have to play around with it carefully a bit until figure out if it works as such, etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <troub...@columbus.rr.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Recording PC sound output for things like podcasts/demo's etc. on windows7


Ok, you have it right and using the right chose. You can also get to that option in control panel, sounds. Now that you have the record side setup. You have to set the card doing the recording also to be the card doing the playing of the sounds you want. That is why you have no sound recorded. Make both the default and you should get your sound recorded. Now if you pick the card you want in jaws and the other card for default sounds. You won't get jaws in the recording.

At 06:42 PM 11/10/2011, you wrote:
OK, while I could just use an external microphone/device to record my computer's audio output, including surrounding sounds, maybe me talking etc., etc., while using my current primary windows7 ultimate 64 bit primary machine, on machines like windows XP, it seemed you could easily enough, sometimes use either a sort of virtual audio recording device called stereo mix, or one called what you hear, and then using something like either audacity, or 2 other recording apps have gotten hold of - see below - record just the computers actual audio output, including screenreader voices, a bit more cleanly.

Anyway, on this windows7 64 bit machine, I had to firstly go and make the stereo mix recording device show up, since it sort of gets hidden by windows7 itself - in start menu search box, I type in:
sound card

and then hit enter on "change sound card settings".

Then in that dialogue box, I ctrl + tab to recording page, and in list of recording devices, it only showed microphone and audio line in - and this is linked to my PC's realtek sound card.

When I then invoked a right mouse click on that list, using the jaws cursor, on the context menu item there's a menu item saying something like show disabled devices, and then I could find a stereo mix device listing, and if I invoked it's properties, I could in fact enable it, make changes to it's volume levels, etc. etc.

However, even if I make it the default device - also from that dialogue, or specifically choose to use it in either audacity, or the 2 apps listed below, the sound files do have a file size, and a recorded time length, but are just silent..?

Most guys who've done something similar to this on windowsXP machines reckon the device would normally be called something like what you hear, but anyway - was just wondering if anyone had any ideas related to a feasible workaround for this type of issue, asides from actually recording the PC's output using an external device/unit/microphone placed in front of speakers, since it might be nice to be able to record demo's/tutorial material related to some things like this, without having to first connect external units/cables, etc. etc.

Lastly, those two bits of software found/tracked down that let you sort of record directly to MP3 files - in theory anyway - and which while not perfectly accessible, are still relatively usable are the 2 following ones:

Free MP3 sound recorder
http://www.nbxsoft.com/download-sound-recorder.php

Digital audio recorder
http://www.asoftwareplus.com/

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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