Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your thoughtful and detailed explanation.

Paulette 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning Another good book on Audible


Hi Paulette,

According to our charter the purpose of the Audyssey list is the discussion
of games that are made accessible either through accident or design. This
may include but is not limited to braille board games, braille card games,
hand held games like BopIt, and of course any computer games that a blind
person can reasonably play independent of sighted help. More recently we've
allowed and added the development of accessible games to our charter as
there have been a number of tools like Audio Game Maker, BGT, etc created in
recent years for designing accessible games for the blind. Thus it falls
under our charter because its related to accessible games for the blind.

The reason why the books you are talking about are off topic is that they
are essentially just books about games, but aren't actually games
themselves. Nor are they related to existing accessible games. Therefore we,
the moderators, consider them to be outside of our purview to discuss
accessible gaming.

It would be different if the book, story, etc was a piece of fan fiction
related to an existing game. In a case like that it might be allowed, but
would have to be related to a specific  accessible game. It couldn't be just
any story about gaming in general.

For example, there is a book called Kilobite about a couple of disabled
people who end up getting trapped inside a virtual reality game. While you
could argue its about gaming, it deals with accessibility issues, etc in the
end its still mainly just a story. It has no connection to an existing
accessible game, or even an accessible game in development. We feel rather
than discussing it on Audyssey, which has very specific rules of what is on
and off topic, you would be better served talking about books on one of the
several book sharing lists for the blind.

As far as who sent the Dream Park books I wasn't paying attention and
deleted the posts in question. Your best bet would be to go to
http://www.audyssey.org and look at the list archives to see who sent what.

Cheers!

On 5/1/2012 2:41 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> The book, Ready Player One, is all about computer games in the future. 
> The book, Heir Apparent, is about a teenaged girl who is playing a 
> computer game in the near future and something goes wrong with the 
> game. The book, The Manhattan Hunt Club, is about a man who is caught 
> in a hunting game under the city of New York. That one, I grant you, 
> is not about computer games, but the book is about how he has to get 
> out of the game in which he has been thrown.
> I was quite pleased to hear about the Dream Park books from someone on 
> the list. If I hadn't started the gaming novels thread I would never 
> have heard about them.
>
>   Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by accessible games. Why 
> are novels having to do with playing computer games not appropriate 
> for the list? I did not know that people in England evidently do not 
> have access to many of the books that we can read. So, very 
> regretfully, I will not discuss books on this list again. I wonder how 
> many more computer game books I will miss due to a lack of the 
> discussion? Could you please let me know who sent the post about the 
> Dream Park books so I can thank them off list? I have deleted many posts,
including that one. Thanks.
>
> Paulette


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