And you forgot to mention a possible holdup! Heh heh heh. Stick 'em up, and give me all your games!

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Train sims


Hi Shaun,

You are right to a point. Part of the attraction to train simulators
like Microsoft Train Simulator is the visual graphics. As you drive
your train you can get side views of houses, farms, forests, etc as
you pass them. We can sort of get this feeling by having the sound of
forests, farms, etc as we pass them but its just not the same as
looking at them.

The other attraction is that you can select the type of train you want
to drive. Everything from classic steam engines, to diesel engines,
and I believe some electric engines as well. That means that depending
on the type of engine you decided to select it can get pretty involved
in driving the train.

If you selected, for example, a steam engine you have to be careful
how much coal you transfer from the coal tender into the engine. if
you get the fires too hot the boilers will get too hot and explode. If
you don'tkeep the boiler hot enough your engine won't move fast enough
to make deliveries on time. You have to keep your eye on the pressure
gages to make sure you have a full head of steam to keep the engine
running, but not enough steam to cause the boilers to explode. Besides
that you need to break properly slow during curves, speed up on the
straight aways, and that's not easy because you need to have a good
idea when to start slowing the train before you reach the curve or
you'll wreck and so on. Let's just say its anything but simple driving
a classic steam engine.

I'm pretty sure a train simulator could be made accessible, but  I
don't know how much we'd get out of it because as I said earlier a lot
of the attraction for sighted players is the visual graphics. I
suppose some blind train enthusiasts might still like it, but I don't
know if anyone else would. I think I might like such a game since I
like old trains, and having a game driving a train during the old West
would be kind of cool.

Cheers!


On 7/18/12, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm there are 2 of them I know about.
1.  spoor sim.
That is ok but was never developed after a sertain fashion.
The other is by the pkd group, consisting of pkb dzk I think wisi and
what was mtgames.
The group died after a couple years stagnation.
I backed up all the archive I think but who knows if I have it?
It did almost the same as spoorsim did, and was really not that
interesting to be truthfull.
A lot of stuff was started but never completed to a satisfactory level.
THere were a few soundpacks for lonewolf and trek but since locutis
of borg has happily isimulated those and new ones are a bit better,
there is not much point of them bar a few differences to each pack.
I have a feeling I don't have this anymore I know that several sites
of dubious nature in amongst their dubious and alegal contents may
have a coppy of the game but to be honest all actual work stopped for
ages due to constraints on the devs, so who knows.
I don't know if I would like a trainsim, there would have to be more
to it than just driving them round.
its mostly a visual game, my friend with ms train sim says he can mod
the engines, etc and drive them round tracks.
Also do different views, crash the trains, race the trains, etc.
Racing games are not in my forte unless they actually have the content.

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