Hi.
I'd go with Android, but my reasons don't line up with everyone Else's.

1. So you can write games for me to play on mine.

2. I got mine because I can change the speech. I can't understand any of the voices available on iOS. I have much better luck with ESpeak with my hearing problem.

3. I also got mine because of a physical keyboard, but that won't apply to the Nexus 4.

4. Not sure where folks are coming from that say you'd only be able to use Android as a basic phone. I have many apps on mine, from Zello to Voxer to HayTell and Skype and Dropbox and mos of them work flawlessly in terms of accessibility even on Android 4.0.4, which is what I use.

5. I don't think most of the other commenters have tried 4.2 yet. I haven't either myself, but it appears to work pretty well. If it isn't on the level of iOS yet, which it isn't in some cases, it probably will be before too long.

6. The fragmentation doesn't really apply to the Google Nexus 4 because that's Google's phone that they will be loading the Stock rom (another benefit to the Nexus 4) on it to be able to show other manufacturers how Android is supposed to work. It should be the first to see updates for at least a couple more years to come, and if it isn't, it will be easy to grab a mod and install it on this phone as Google most likely doesn't lock it down. Although, buy it unlocked, don't let AT&T sell you anything like I did, they'll do all sorts of stupid things to try and control you just like iOS but worse. For instance I'm pretty sure my Android phone has the gps chip disabled for 3rd party apps, only works for the AT&T navigator program that came with it. Ask me if that makes me want to slap some buttheads around.

7. If you don't like it you can tweak it. I've been through probably 10 home screens and am currently using one that does seem to work reasonably well. Not to mention you could write a better one than everyone else's, in your opinion, and sell it for me to get on mine.

8. Truth be told, if I could have switched to ESpeak or just the right alternative synthesizer on iOS, I probably would have not tried Android. I would have gotten a keyboard case for the phone, so the iOS devices not having a keyboard isn't much of a show stopper for me, it's those voices. Aaarrrggg!!!

9. My phone seems to be a lot faster than even my iPod touch 5g, which is lesser a cpu than that on the iPhone 5, but not by too awful much

10. You can swipe on android 4.2, though people seem too willing to just do that and not use explore by touch. on iOS I get used to the app's layout and don't need to flick on screens that I'm used to very often. On my Android phone I have to explore by touch though, because 4.0.4 doesn't have the gestures.

11. You can enable accessibility on android in the setup screen by pressing the screen with two fingers a suitable distance apart and holding for a few seconds until it responds with prmpts. May need to press the power button first. This is also available while on the menu that's pulled up by the power button when the phone is running. On some devices you can draw a square on the screen with a finger to enable it. Not as 1 2 3-ish as tripple click home, which does work out of the box now unlike what someone said earlier on, but it's getting there.

12. Here's a possible con. My on screen keyboard is harder to use on my phone than it is on iOS. Sometimes I can slide the finger across the keyboard and it may not speak a certan letter as I go over it, or maybe two letters, then all of a sudden it'll speak the next one over. For instance trying to find l let's say I touch j, I slide to the right, nothing, slide to the right, l. Slide to the left, k. It seems to be easier if I try not to stop sliding, and I have to keep my finger gentle on the screen. Mostly I try extra hard to land on the right button, which I have been relatively successful at in the little I have used my on screen keyboard what with me having a physical one on my particular phone.

13. Android is newer than iOS, and accessibility is a little newer than Voiceover on iOS, at least as far as I know it is. I think they have some catching up to do, but they're newer than iOS, so still have a right to be a little behind. Though if you do hit issues, that won't matter to you when you can't do something on your phone that they could do on iOS.

14. I don't know if this is fixed in 4.2, but on Android, if you touch a button, and slide away from it you can try to tap it, and you'll not tap the button, but instead tap the screen where there isn't anything to tap, or on another button if you happen to have slid to one, naturally. On iOS, you can touch a button, then slide all over the screen, and as long as you don't land on another button, double tapping the screen will issue a tap on the button you touched in the first place. This means that if you're trying to explore the screen and land on the button you want but accidentally move past it a bit so that you get that dink dink dink noise, double tapping will still hit that button without requiring you to find the button again. In the case of my android phone, you have to hit the button right on. If you move past it you won't tap the button, but just will tap the screen in the middle of nowhere. And on android there's not really any indication that you're exploring empty space, so that's another issue. But I can't sy that this won't be fixed in the very next version. Can't also say that it will, but I think some of the improvements since 4.0.4 to 4.2 and 4.2.1 have to mean something.




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On 1/6/2013 6:07 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Dark,

True enough. It all sounds good. The only problem for me is that the
Apple iPhone 5 costs more than double the cost of a Google Nexus 4,
and one thing I do not like about the iPhone is that the touchscreen
is very small. The Nexus 4 has nearly double the room to move your
fingers around which I find much more suited to my needs.

So while the Apple iPhone seems to be the better option for games an
Android solution like the Nexus 4 is the more cost effective solution
for the VI user. I've had a bit of experience with my wife's Samsung
Galaxy S3, and I find the accessibility on Ice Cream Sandwich
acceptable for a VI user for handling the basics of web browsing with
Firefox, managing contacts, doing texting, etc. I hear the Nexus 4,
which comes with Jellybean 4.2, is even better yet so I'm strongly
thinking of going for an Android phone just to save on the initial
investment costs of an iPhone.


On 1/6/13, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Well tom the game is amazingly complex and detailed and I'd highly recommend

it, indeed it's one of the most complex rpg/stratogy games I've ever played

since everything works as much through story as it does through pure
resource management. For someone like yourself who appreciates mythology i
think you'd really enjoy the game.

Plus then there are others. Lost cities is a fun cardgame to play with
people when you have time, and the choiceofgames play very well as
gamebooks. I've not investigated too much else myself yet, but a lot more is

around too.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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