On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:46:09AM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Iustin Pop <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:26:10AM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Guido Trotter <[email protected]> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Iustin Pop <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Iustin Pop <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I was going to add another flag to the cluster settings, and to me it
> >> >>> > seems that it's not really good to have N flags directly int the 
> >> >>> > cluster
> >> >>> > object. For example, we have today “modify_etc_hosts”, and I want to 
> >> >>> > add
> >> >>> > now “enable_bridging”, we'll also need “modify_root_ssh”, etc.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I think we should either name them all flag_$blah (not so nice for
> >> >>> > cmdline) or move them to a sub-object cluster.flags (this is not 
> >> >>> > good as
> >> >>> > then gnt-cluster modify is harder to work, or maybe not).
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Is it a non-issue actually? Or is it, but I should just ignore it and
> >> >>> > add my flag for now?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Why making the interface to them more complicated by hiding them in a
> >> >>> "flags" object?
> >> >>> In the end what problem is there if they stay in the main cluster one?
> >> >>> They're settings for a cluster.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, true, which is why I said maybe it's a non-issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> It just seems to me that if we have 8-10 boolean flags it is better if
> >> >> we separate those, as just from the name it's not clear what they mean.
> >> >> I'm happy to leave things as they are if you think it's fine.
> >> >>
> >> >>> Also, for the bridge, should we have an explicit enable/disable
> >> >>> bridging, or just not populate the default bridge, if --no-bridging is
> >> >>> passed (same as we do for --no-lvm-...)?
> >> >>
> >> >> We need explicit disable, in which case we won't run the cluster verify
> >> >> checks for the dependencies of bridging.
> >> >
> >> > Which we could not run anyway, if there is not default bridge set (and
> >> > no instance needs a bridge).
> >>
> >> == all the nics are in "routed" mode... Isn't this safer?
> >
> > We're back at square one, circa May 2009 :)
> >
> 
> Wow! Like playing stairs and snakes! :)
> 
> > I still argue that explicit (yes, I need bridging) is better than
> > implicit.  Otherwise, right after a cluster creation, with no instances,
> > your proposal would make the cluster verify say everything's OK
> 
> Not if a default bridge is set up

Wrong context, I was discussing your proposal of only looking at if any
instance is in bridged mode.

> > whereas
> > it's not. And I like more if gnt-instance add rejects my misguided
> > attempts to create a bridged network when the cluster config doesn't
> > allow it.
> >
> 
> But why not allowing it? We already support more than one bridge, so
> if there is no default, and no instance has a bridge, no need to
> check, if there is no defualt and some instance has some bridge, need
> to check all bridges specified by instances, if there is a default,
> that should exist everywhere! And at instance creation time, if you
> specify a bridge, we check anyway!
> (of course if no default one is there, default nic mode is routed) :)

Wrong context, I was discussing your proposal of only looking at if any
instance is in bridged mode, not if default_bridge == empty.

iustin

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