Paolo Amoroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clemens Fruhwirth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > When I have seen the front pages of > > > > http://cliki.net and http://mcclim.cliki.net > > > > for the first time, I felt totally lost. I had no idea where I have to > > go to get the information I wanted. I resorted to the "click every link > > As someone who spent some time editing mcclim.cliki.net, I'd be > interested in what kind of information you were looking for, and why > you felt lost.
First of all, I haven't had a brief idea of what asdf was, how it relates to asdf-install and what defsystem is about. This could be cured by fixing http://www.cliki.net/asdf with a nice hierarchy graphics of, how these stuff relates to each other. But back to McCLIM. When you hit http://mcclim.cliki.net/index you see "Building and Installation" and "Documentation". The first one is usually a subtopic of the second. "Building and Installation" talks about mk:operate-on-system, which I'm not using. When you click on "Documentation" you see a random bunch of links. It should be ordered from "First contact with least experience to developer information". However, I found the "Out Of Box Experience" and filtered the asdf commands, that are spread across the whole page. In a nutshell I was looking for (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'cmucl-graystream) (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'cmucl-clx) (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'clim) (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'clim-clx) Now knowing more about asdf, I chosen something different in my .sbclrc (defmethod asdf:perform :after ((o asdf:load-op) (s (eql (asdf:find-system :clim)))) (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :clim-clx)) and only do "(asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :clim)" in my eval-when environments.. so, these things are missing from my perspective of mcclim's wiki. I'm going to restructure these pages, if you don't object as following: Move Building and Installation into Documention Move Compilance into Documentation Move Compatibility into Documentation Reorder the content of Documentation as following: * Prequisites for McCLIM (former Compatiblity) * Downloading McCLIM * via Debian using clc * via Gentoo using clc * manually * Loading McCLIM * Using mk:defsystem * Using asdf * Implementation specific (CMUCL, SBCL, OpenMCL..) * Installation McCLIM * Generating a core image with McCLIM loaded in c-l-c. * manually * Application development * Examples * Links to walkthrough etc. * Tutorials * For developers * CLIM Spec Also http://lists.metacircles.com/pipermail/portable-clx/2005-November/000111.html has to be fixed for McCLIM to load properly with portable clx. That was also a point I was struggling with on my installation attempts. Regards, -- Fruhwirth Clemens - http://clemens.endorphin.org for robots: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
