What about using wxCL as McCLIM backend? This approach would 

1. work on Windows and MacOS,
2. improve wxCL and McCLIM simply by usage (users = best qualilty
   assurance you can get),
3. prevent boring gadget coding in McCLIM.

Also this approach can be developed more easily:

1. you don't not need to work on other platforms to help these other
platforms. The last mail on sbcl-devel shows that there is a lack of
coders that like work on windows platforms.

2. once we have the basic frame management code in place, we can start
to distribute the task of properly connecting gadgets. An interested
gardener can adopt for instance the radio box and bring this part of a
wxCL backend to maturity. This will naturally lead to patches for wxCL.


CLIM is very good for rapid application building. I haven't seen a
framework that is so spare in terms of code writing. I really like that,
cause I'm no code generator. But what's missing is cross-platform
stuff. 

Those, who think CLIM is not a good choice because the documentation
is totally confusing, please wait. I'm trying to augment the CLIM
documention with a 20 page tutorial that shows pretty much of the CLIM
feature in action and gives you a good picture of how things are
connect. At the end, /me too found out that it was actually easy. I also
plan to do a video tutorial.

Again, I'm volunteering to do the basis here. But ATM, I'm a bit
overloaded with other stuff - who isn't? :). Anyone interested to assist or
take the lead for this idea?

Regards,
-- 
Fruhwirth Clemens - http://clemens.endorphin.org 
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