This was meant to be in reply to Josh, I'm sorry for the horrible quoting style. On 12/18/05, Andy Cristina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right now I just recommend you don't use ASDF-INSTALL. I've used ASDF > with clisp for over a year without any problems. And once my finals > end at midnight tonight, I will be free to make asdf-install work with > the native win32 version of clisp. > > I'm not on my windows machine now, so I can't get you actual examples, > but basically what you need to do is make sure asdf works. If you're > using lispbox, it probably does. Make some directory, call it c:\CL. > Inside that, untar all of the packages you want to use. So if you get > cl-ppcre.tar.gz, use winzip or winrar to untar it to c:\cl, preserving > directories. So you'll have something like c:\cl\cl-ppcre-1.0 The > version numbers will of course be different. Now, you need to tell > asdf where the .asd file is. > > To do this, you push "C:/cl/cl-ppcre-1.0/" into the > asdf:*central-registry* list. > > There is a really good blog entry that shows how you can write a > function which will make all subdirectories of a directory be in the > asdf *central-registry*, but I can't find it at the moment. > http://bc.tech.coop/blog/041113.html is a link to Bill Clementon's blog, where he describes a procedure for automatically updating asdf's registry. I've used this proceedure successfully for over a year with native clisp on win32.
Maybe this type of thing can be added to lispbox, so that all you have to do is untar the packages into lispbox's packages directory? > The bottom line is that asdf-install is not needed, at all, to use > asdf and asdf packages. You just need to download them yourself. It > is annoying, yes, but it is doable and you need to know how to do it > anyway, because not every asdf system is asdf-installable. > > On 12/18/05, LeAnthony Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Surendra, > > At this point I think i'm on the edge of giving up. If it takes this much > > to install files to make lispbox have a GUI interface, then it is not worth > > it. I have been trying different combinations all day. I would suggest > > that a GUI be added to the distribution so it's part of the initial > > emacs/clisp/slime/wxCL distribution. As a new user I want to play with > > application design examples, not walk through confusing setups. > > > > Here is some of the issues I had trying to read the application to set up > > wxCL/ASDF/ASDF-install: > > You can also install GnuPG from the Cygwin setup program. If you want to use > > CLISP you currently have to use the Cygwin version (which can also be > > installed from the setup application). The good news is that if you use > > Cygwin you can pretty much pretend you're on Unix and skip all the Windows > > notes below. If you want to use ASDF-INSTALL on Windows you must install > > Cygwin first. (Well, why was Cygwin not included in the lispbox package or > > maybe it was) Depending on if im using cygwin or not, unix or not. etc... > > asdf-install only handles tar.gz files, (I think it should be extended to > > handle zip as well)? > > > > I'm pulling hair out at the moment. Corman Lisp or one of the comercial > > packages are looking better and better. Please help this poor soul out. > > > > > > > > On 12/18/05, Surendra Singhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > LeAnthony Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Thanks for all who have helped, but let me say again that I'm looking > > for > > > > some "hand holding" on getting a basic "Hello world" GUI application > > example > > > > up and running. If someone had a movie on how it was done it would be a > > > > great visual blueprint for new users for creating lisp application. > > > > > > > > My original task was getting this application to run on my windows > > machine > > > > and then sending this simple example to a friend or installing it on a > > > > machine a work. > > > > > > > > Here is how far I have gotten thanks to all those gardeners who have > > given > > > > me tips. > > > > > > > > 1. Installing LISP > > > > > > > > I choose Lispbox. It contains: clisp/emacs/slime > > > > > > > > -Peter Seibel Lispbox setup is great > > > > http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/lispbox/lispbox.html > > > > > > > > But I still had some issues with setup, but this thread at > > > > www.codecomments.com helped: > > > > http://www.codecomments.com/Lisp/message688829.html > > > > > > > > Task: Installing LISP(done) > > > > > > > > Sidenote: I do find emacs/slime/clisp buffer ackward and confusing > > for > > > > writing code. I write most of my code in Lispworks( > > > > http://www.lispworks.com/). Save the file and then use emacs/slime/clisp > > to > > > > compile. Maybe because I have not completly grasp (got use to) the key > > > > acrobatics. Maybe a nice windows IDE appeals so much to me because of > > my > > > > old Visual Basic background. But the power of emacs/slime/clisp keeps > > me > > > > trying. > > > > > > > > 2. Installing GUI library > > > > > > > > -I choose wxCL - a Widgets library > > > > > > > > -Thanks to Surendra Singhi I downloaded wxcl-1.1.1 - a common LISP > > Widgets > > > > library. > > > > download wxcl-1.1.1 from > > > > > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wxcl/wxcl-1.1.1.zip?download > > > > > > Please download wxCL 1.2.0. > > > > > > > I unzip it in the directory I have lispworks stuff in. > > > > I used Surendra's wxCL quick start guide to do some surgery on the file > > > > wxcl.lisp so that it would contain the relative paths so my specific > > > > computer could see the widgets library. > > > > > > > > Then the easy part ended: the intricacies of asdf stopped my progress. > > > > -I downloaded the widgets library and set the paths in the wxCL > > directory, > > > > but how do I tell the asdf to look for this new folder for the widgets. > > > > -Surendra's guide says that I can use the asdf to load the wxcl.asd. > > This > > > > is very confusing. And Dr. Edmund Weitz( > > > > http://www.weitz.de/asdf-install/) nice tutorial on how > > to use > > > > asdf-install does not help. > > > > > > If you have asdf, and asdf-install set up and configured (follow the > > tutorial) > > > then this line below is what you need to execute to install wxCL. > > > > > > (asdf-install:install "c:/wxcl-1.2.0.tar.gz") > > > > > > asdf-install only handles tar.gz files (I think it should be extended to > > > handle zip as well). > > > > > > asdf-install is a very powerful tool to know about, and have properly set > > > up. Say you want to install a library which parses xml files (say s-xml), > > the > > > only thing which you need to do is > > > > > > (asdf-install:install :s-xml) > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > -- > > > Surendra Singhi > > > http://www.public.asu.edu/~sksinghi/index.html > > > > > > ,---- > > > | "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." > > > | -- Orwell, Animal Farm, 1945 > > > `---- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gardeners mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gardeners mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
