On 2006-01-18, Peter Seibel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 18, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Peter K.Lee wrote: >> Having put up a couple of pages on the wiki, I can't help but ask >> if the Kiwi sources have been released? > > Not that I know of. According to <http://wiki.alu.org/Kiwi>: > > We plan to publically release the Kiwi source code early next > year, after we tidy it up and write internal documentation. > > I believe that was written in 2005 so it should be soon. Of the > folks listed on that page, I believe Daniel Finster and Carl > Shapiro are the main authors of Kiwi itself so if you want to know > more you should contact them. There's also some more about what is > required for a release on: > > <http://wiki.alu.org/Discuss:Kiwi> > > Given our dependence on it, I think it would be a fine Gardeners > project to work on Kiwi and extend it in ways that suit our needs, if > we can get Daniel and Carl to release to public sight.
I agree with the principle of "eating your own dog food". However ... *If* too many other people don't care for editing raw html (I don't, either), and *if* it should come to pass that we can't get the source to Kiwi or we don't have time to update it, and we don't have time to write a new Wiki-in-Lisp, then I think we should consider using a different tool. (The possibility exists, of course, that non-Lispers would pounce on us and say "See, look, you can't write a useful wiki in Lisp!" To such potential trolls I would happily respond: The fact that this *particular* group of *volunteers* does not choose to spend its time reinventing the wheel just to say 'We did it in Lisp!' is a far cry from saying "You can't write a useful Wiki in Lisp!" So back off! :) But then maybe I'm prematurely defensive. On the third hand, look at the shitstorm the Reddit crew walked into when they went from Lisp to Python; maybe I'm *not* prematurely defensive. :) Anyway, some features I'd like to see: diff'ing between versions, less html, and a less cumbersome anti-spam facility. -- Larry "Irrationality is the square root of all evil." -- Douglas Hofstadter _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
