Short story: Join #cl-gardeners. Long story: Xach posted
http://blog.roberthahn.ca/articles/2006/02/09/lisp-first-impressions on #lisp on FreeNode. Yes, this blog entry has some attitude problems, however the main point the blogger has is right: #lisp is a channel for experienced CL programmers, and not primarily for asking trivial lisp newcomer questions. Of course, not all of these questions are valid. Some of those people joining #lisp simply want to get their homework done (preferably by others). But sometimes there are people that seriously want to learn Lisp. Every single one that is not sucked into the Common Lisp community is a loss that might not be quantified. And selfish as I am, I simply dislike the idea that there are any obstacles for lisp newcomers to start writing lisp code that someday I might be able to use :). The plan is to build a channel where newcomers can ask question and eventually get answer by newcomers. You don't have to fortuneteller to predict that sometimes newbies can answer questions by other newbies better than an experienced CL. And in most cases, both parties gain knowledge. (The unexperienced newbie by getting an answer, the semi-experienced newbie by repeating his partially acquired knowledge; you'll find that learning technique in every serious "teachers handbook") The channel should be on FreeNode. The reason is that when the guys on #lisp are busy or simply don't want to give an answer, they can send off the help seeker to #cl-gardeners. To actually gain any social momentum, it is required that there are a few experienced CL coders on #cl-gardeners that are willing to help out for the first few months. So, if you are interested join #cl-gardeners on FreeNode, irc.freenode.net or http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml -- Fruhwirth Clemens - http://clemens.endorphin.org for robots: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
