Hello,

As I was saying before, I'm actually very new (or at least less
experienced) with LISP but I want to know more about it.  I guess I
should fist tell you why I have this interest.  If you go to my site
and look at the current article you'll see I know my fair share of
languages and have studied a lot (www.brendon-art.com).  I think LISP
has a very interesting syntax, and I've heard that it's one of the
oldest language that supported important concepts such as recursion,
and basically speaking, you probably never needed to replace LISP with
any other language as much as you could just improve or grow upon it,
however C/C++ seemed to have taken over at some point in history.
Would you say that my interpretation of this history here is correct?

I'm a fan of the Python language as well.  I like the fact that it has
an interpreter, it can run and be changed on the fly, and the syntax
is quite easy to understand and straight forward.  LISP also has these
same qualities.

One worry I have with LISP is that it isn't being kept up with and so
there might not be as many interesting things you can do with it these
days.  Can you create a windowed desktop app (or any GUI) with LISP?
Can I connect to a network with it?  What are some ways that LISP is
still being used today?

Thanks for any feedback.

Brendon



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> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 01:19:51AM +0800, Brendon Schumacker wrote:
>> I use Vim religiously for everything.  I used to use Emacs for
>> everything, and during that time a lot of people would talk about Vi,
>> so after the curiousity got the better of me I took the time to learn
>> some Vim commands and eventually got hooked.  The reason I can't
>> escape Vim is because it's so damn fast, lightweight, and after
>> getting used to it I'd say it has to be the most convenient editor for
>> those who do some serious coding in any language.  I generally need to
>> make everything I do from scratch, which requires a ton of typing, and
>> I hate it every time my hands have to leave the keyboard or when my
>> fingers have to go searching for some oddball key combo.
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> I went a similar way: uesd Emacs for lots of things, including mail and
> news reading and even used it to do simple filesystem-related tasks.
> Then I switched to vim, which was much faster and seemed lighter.
> Then when I go tserious about Common Lisp and Scheme programming, I
> went back to Emacs (with Viper mode). It's funny because it doesn't
> feel like it's slow at all.
>
> But I still use vim for other tasks (I'm writing this using mutt+vim).
>
> I think different people will have different priorities and preferences,
> but it seems that those for whom it's very important to be able to quickly
> interac with the REPL while coding will prefer Emacs (of course there are
> exceptions). And when I say "interacting", I mean not only "sending code
> to be evaluated", but also read context-sensitive documentation, inspect
> Lisp objects on-the-fly and do several other interesting tricks.
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> J.
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> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:53:30 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Andreas Davour <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Gardeners] Gardeners Digest, Vol 42, Issue 1
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> On Wed, 19 May 2010, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
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>> I think different people will have different priorities and preferences,
>> but it seems that those for whom it's very important to be able to quickly
>> interac with the REPL while coding will prefer Emacs (of course there are
>> exceptions). And when I say "interacting", I mean not only "sending code
>> to be evaluated", but also read context-sensitive documentation, inspect
>> Lisp objects on-the-fly and do several other interesting tricks.
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> Is't that what lisp programming is all about? :)
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