Dear Mark and all

Gasoline is approximately CH2 (long chains of  -CH2- capped with two Hs).  
Combustion is then

CH2 + 1.5 O2==> CO2 + H2O

So the CO2 and H2O are equal on a volume basis.  Weight basis the ratio is 
44/18. 

Certainly if you cool the exhaust below about 70 C you should get condensation. 
 

 Tom Reed.    BEF
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On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:14 AM, "Mark Ludlow" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> 
> I’m guessing that the I.C. exhaust must have a substantial H2O component, in 
> addition to CO and CO2. While it may be relatively small at I.C. exhaust 
> temperatures, once it has transferred its sensible heat to the feed stock, I 
> imagine that the exhaust gas must be close to saturation.
> 
> Mark
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Boak
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:55 PM
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] the most important thing (quite possibly) > i've 
> learned to date
> 
>  
> 
> Andy,
>  
> I'd also like to start a discussion about direct contact of the wood chips 
> with the exhaust gas.  A pre-processing reactor that cooks the chips a little 
> batch at a time then dumps them into the main gasifier reactor, via auger 
> feed. As you say a "just in time" pipeline flow of pre-cooked, pre- heated 
> reactants.  Water can be added if necessary as steam.
>  
> Clearly the wood will become torrified, and the exhaust gas stream will drive 
> off and purge the wood fuel of moisture and volatiles, whilst raising the 
> temperature of the fuel considerably.  There will also be an increase in fuel 
> energy density.
>  
> If diesel exhaust was used (I'm thinking of a dual fuel Lister being started 
> up on diesel to raise process heat and provide mechanical and electrical 
> power for starting up gasifier), this will contain between 8% and 17% unused 
> oxygen, and around 80% nitrogen.  Would the O2 be of sufficient quantity to 
> cause partial oxidation of the fuel and possibly more heat?
>  
> If the exhaust is from a woodgas engine - it will again be around 80% 
> nitrogen, plus CO2 and CO.   If this relatively inert hot gas is used to 
> purge the woodfuel of all moisture and volatiles - is the resultant off-gas 
> ever going to have sufficient combustible constituents that it could be 
> ignited in any sort of air fed burner - or is the nitrogen loading just too 
> high?
>  
>  
> Thoughts appreciated,
>  
>  
>  
> Ken
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On 19 October 2010 02:13, andy schofield <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jim,
> 
>    Pushing calories around in the DTU graphic model, I find moving heat into 
> the fuel is indeed the best use, for loose BTUs.
>  In practice, heat transfer into wood is not easy because of limited 
> conduction and radiation, and zero convection in a mound of fuel.
>  The GEK method is like stir-frying vegetables in a wok; forcing convection. 
> As each particle, contacts the walls of the pyrocoil; they cook.
> 
> Someday I want to attempt direct contact of the wood with engine exhaust gas, 
> after solving a certain sealing problem. 
> A "just in time" inventory of heated wood; roasted to perfection.
> It is a shovel ready project.
> 
> Looking forward to your findings. 
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
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