On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:01:30 -0700, jim wrote in message <[email protected]>:
> i'm still in munich and still enjoying the deutsches museum. i asked > for permission to inspect the internals of the imbert gasifier on the > adler and was, shockingly, granted an "ok" to do so. i spent three > hours digging around in it yesterday, taking pictures of all > internals, measuring details for cad drawings, and taking char > samples. i was rather wonderful, in a somewhat disturbingly geeky > way. ..aye, a silly happy sooty grin on all pictures is the price you pay for such jackpots. ;o) > after closer inspection, i need to somewhat retract the statement > that the ancients had nothing on us "moderns". there were some > unusual and unexpected things in the imbert. things i've never > realized from the drawings and the reports. nothing game changing, > but some of the details and integrations between internal reactor > components was more mature than we've realized. i'm going to need to > write this up in a series of reports, going component by component. > in the interim, here's a portrait of the researcher at work . . . > > http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages > > also, there turned out to be another vehicle with an imbert gasifier ..what year are these 2 gasifiers, or rather, when where they last serviced or modified? > in the vehicle part of the museum. this one was a ford truck with > behind cab unit. same basic architecture and components, but some > significant differences in execution. > > i didn't get to spelunk the ford gasifier. i only got to dig through > the one on the adler. but fortunately i got to dig all i wanted. > the musuem staff was excited that someone actually cared about this. > the docents wanted to learn lots of details of why and how, as they > gives tours of this machine regularly. > > reports will start soon. > > jim > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mark Ludlow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks, Rolf! > > > > Very useful insight and perspective. Things are often much more > > than they seem. (Every picture tells a story!) > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Rolf Uhle > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:19 AM > > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > > Subject: Re: [Gasification] No time for beer in Munich- there's a > > real live imbert gasifier here > > > > Hallo Jim, > > nice to know you enjoyed the GM just like I did both times I > > visited it - must > > be 30 + years ago. > > The beer is good, too, but we also had good stuff at Zellingen. > > > > "just basic steel and surprisingly mediocore welding. it was funny > > to see so many of the same problems and needs solved on the imbert > > in the same hack manner many of us still do with a welder and a > > hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw lots of > > expedience, simplicity, and band aids." > > > > |||Those were hard times, self earned of course. People I talked to > > who had lived that time told me everything good was reserved for > > military production, > > civil items were welded together by any means, gas mostly or with > > crap electrodes and by those workers ( very often unskilled women > > and compulsary labour) the war could spare. > > And god knows how often they fixed broken weldings after a unlit > > night drive > > > > over badly worn roads full of potholes. My parents told me amazing > > stories about improvising and survival. > > Plain sheet steel was everything they had, anything noble went into > > weapons. > > With the same effort in civil achievements, Hitler would have won > > any war without fighting one... > > > > If you ever have a chance to see the Verkehrsmuseum Luzern (CH) , > > go. It is smaller than the DM but really woth your while. > > > > I went to the Valladolid Biomass Energy Show and showed some > > pictures of the > > > > PP around. Great response! > > We would have triumphed ! > > Next year perhaps... > > Rolf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2010 03:43:25 schrieb jim mason: > > > just basic steel and surprisingly mediocore welding. it was funny > > > to see so many of the same problems and needs solved on the > > > imbert in the same hack manner many of us still do with a welder > > > and a hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw > > > lots of expedience, simplicity, and band aids. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gasification mailing list > > > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > > [email protected] > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg > > ylists.org<http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg%0Aylists.org> > > > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gasification mailing list > > > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > > [email protected] > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... 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