I am in a different industry and just joined to learn more about gasification. Technical people suffer from honesty. If you ask me a question about my idea, I will probably tell you ten reasons that it may not work. I am afraid that the people with the money do not appreciate honesty as they have none themselves. They are way too busy looking to make a killing on the next gimmick after subprime mortgages.
Robert Gersch ----- Original Message ----- From: Toby Seiler To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant Jim, I think GF has a point about how politics work with financing. The money chase by an inventor seems both predetermined and rigged, even more so where large sums of money are involved. Re Range Fuels, a report says; "The first step converts the biomass to synthesis gas and the second step converts the gas to ethanol." Does the first step make producer gas or syngas? Apparently the technical review didn't know the difference or was asked to overlook it and it makes about a 10x difference. Good day, Toby Seiler Seilertechco Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:12:24 -0500 From: GF <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Jim, I cannot offer "proof" of the truth of my statement, If I could, I would not. because I really don't care. I could write a book on the subject to show people how they are being manipulated and "shaken down" by a well organized creed who has taken over the western world. No doubt with the passing of time you might see it. The worst is yet to come. The sad thing is we fully deserve it. GF -----Original Message----- From: Jim Leach <[email protected]> To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 12:18 pm Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant That is a pretty nasty and bold claim, do you have any facts to back that up? JAMES T. LEACH, P.E. President DANA TECHNOLOGIES, INC. 32242 Paseo Adelanto, Suite D San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675 Ph 949-496-6516 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 949-496-6516 end_of_the_skype_highlighting Fx 949-496-8133 Mobile 949-933-6518 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 949-933-6518 end_of_the_skype_highlighting From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GF Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:41 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant Government Grants and Ethanol. I think we all agree on: THE GREAT ETHANOL SWINDLE. This is where our tax dollars are diverted into non economic production of a fuel additive which supposedly saves us from climate change. The primary players in this scam have made sure their methods together with the cash cow they have created ?REMAINS INTACT? The last thing they desire is a new and more efficient system to be discovered or adopted. So how do they protect their interests? Quite simply, take control of any new committees responsible for the selection of grants which might produce an alternative to their scam. How could such a wasteful and useless system be chosen for Federal Investment unless the people on the committee had an agenda which also included the grant seekers. The naivety of those who believe that poor judgment on the part of the perpetrators is the primary cause of such ?losses? should have their voting rights revoked. There are no accidents or poor judgment in politics. That is the excuse generated by a stupid and trusting electorate. It will not matter how merit worthy your claim is for grant money, it will not be considered worthy if it challenges an established ?funded? system. It might be chosen if it has ?floors?, in which case, be prepared to share it with at least one member of the committee. GF -----Original Message----- From: Mark Ludlow <[email protected]> To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 11:20 am Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant Tom writes: Wonder why anyone stays in this field? Reply: It pays well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
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