There are two US companies which are currently touting commercial operations 
using similar technology. 
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
President
Thermogenics Inc. 




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From: Thomas Reed <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
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Cc: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
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Sent: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:13 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Tar Processing

Dear PP


Glad to have a first instance of a diesel fuel from improved pyrolysis, 
followed by esterification.  (I hope you will get a gas chromatograph 
analysis).  I wonder if there are also ethers (R-O-R) formed.  


I drive a VW TDI diesel, best car I ever owned.  


Tom Reed

Dr Thomas B ReedPresident, The Biomass Energy Foundation
www.Woodgas.com


On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:16 AM, "Pannirselvam  P.V" <[email protected]> 
wrote:



 Dear   Ant and all list members 

    From rapid  pyrolysis oil from sugqr cane bagasse , syntheticoil called  
bioflex oil  was made in lab scale in Brazil from the aqueous part with 
ethanol, they would form esters using  catalyst known of organic Fisher 
synthesis with significant yield  and the quality of  very good quality  
gasoline ; This oil  can be also used  as fuel in diesel engine .The yield  is 
significant  around  25 porcent of Bio oil; This not  obtained from Tar 
distillqtion , but  this organic green chemical  can be also applied to the tar 
distilled products obtained by tar processing 


Pannirselvam P;V
Brazil

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:35:32 -0400, Thomas wrote in message
<[email protected]>:roved

> Dear ADK and all
>
> AD KARVE has an interesting idea here.  I doubt if he or I have the
> equipment to follow it up, but hope some others here may do so.
>
> When you tear the lignin and celluloses in wood apart during
> pyrolysis, you briefly have a lot of VERY reactive species (free
> radicals) desperately looking for partners.


..that makes a lot of sense, and helps explain
my tar vapor flare performance. :o)

> If they were supplied with a surplus of attractive partners, they
> would make many attractive combinations, some commercial today, and
> probably many others that would be attractive if available.
>
> If the diluent partner was methanol or ethanol, they would form
> esters (perfumes) ethers, and many other interesting compounds that
> I'm not enough organic chemist to list.
>
> I hope someone will give it a try...


..bubbling those tar vapors thru soap water and waste oil, creates an
amazingly stable emulsion with a 2 year shelf life IME, we made half
a dozen barrels that I understand the City of Stavanger took good care
of then they tore down the building around our experimental backyard.

..mixed a wee bit of my goo with saw dust, sand and dirt to clean up a
wee driveway oil slick spill, the problem was it also ate the asphalt.

>
> Tom Reed
>
> Dr Thomas B Reed
> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> www.Woodgas.com



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