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On 12/22/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Gasification mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Merry Christmas in font (Warner Kimo Sutton) > 2. Re: Happy Holidays (Richard Bockwinkel) > 3. Weight, power and temperature Tests (Thomas Reed) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:02:25 -1000 > From: Warner Kimo Sutton <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Subject: [Gasification] Merry Christmas in font > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ?*????*??*??*????*?????*????*??*?*????*??*? > ?? _??_*????/? \*????*??*?*????*??*?*????*??*? > ?. (?? ??)*.?*/?.?\*?.*?_?_____*???*??*?*????*??*? > .? ( . ? . ) ??./? '? ' ?\.?*./______/~?*????*??*?*? ??*? > *(...'?'.. ) *????????.????????????*????*??* ? > > Mele Kalikimaka, Happy Hanukkah, and have a great Kwanzaa. > Houoli makahiki hou! > > Aloha, > Warner Kimo Sutton CEO > Diamond Head Renewable Resources > www.diamondheadrr.com > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Tom Miles wrote: > > > <image001.jpg> > Many thanks to all who have participated on these Bioenergylists.org > discussion lists. > > Tom Miles > Erin Rasmussen > Owner and Sponsor of Bioenergylists.org > > T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc. > Portland, OR > [email protected] > www.trmiles.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/21ea1fc1/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:11:14 -0600 > From: Richard Bockwinkel <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Cc: 'For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion' > <[email protected]>, 'Discussion of biomass cooking > stoves' <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Happy Holidays > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks and same to you and all on the LIST!!! > > > Richard Bockwinkel > ERB & Associates, Inc. > > 913.579.7688 > [email protected] > > > > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Tom Miles wrote: > >> >> <image001.jpg> >> Many thanks to all who have participated on these Bioenergylists.org >> discussion lists. >> >> Tom Miles >> Erin Rasmussen >> Owner and Sponsor of Bioenergylists.org >> >> T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc. >> Portland, OR >> [email protected] >> www.trmiles.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/6446c9f8/attachment-0001.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Merry Christmas.gif > Type: image/gif > Size: 276949 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/6446c9f8/attachment-0001.gif> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:17:08 -0800 > From: Thomas Reed <[email protected]> > To: Tom Reed <[email protected]>, Discussion of biomass pyrolysis > and gasification <[email protected]>, > STOVES > <[email protected]>, Chuck Stevenson > <[email protected]> > Subject: [Gasification] Weight, power and temperature Tests > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Gasers and Stovers > > Someone asked recently how hot the TLUD stoves got during operation. I made > a number of tests below on gasifying several fuels. The highest temperature > I measured during the pyrolysis operation with the Cen-Tech IR pyrometers > was 190 C. However, when the yellow flame disappeared and charcoal was > gasifying the temperature rose to 350C. > > MESQUITE, LIGNIN, AND PINE TLUD PYROLYSIS > > THE FOLLOWING FUELS WERE BURNED IN A 4" D X 6" TALL TLUD STOVE AND THE > WEIGHT CHANGE RECORDED. > > > > > > > > > > Note: The tests were done on a scale weighing to 1/2 g and time recorded > every minute. > > Dry wood typically has an energy content of 21 kJ/g. However in the TLUD > stove only the cellulose contributes is vaporized, approximately 16 kJ/g of > weight loss, while the lignin is carbonized to charcoal. > > MESQUITE > Mesquite is said to have a very high lignin content, compared to other > woods, 64%! > If lignin is the precursor of charcoal, mesquite should give a very high > yield of charcoal. > > 152 g of mesquite chips were placed in the Wanderer stove and ignited with > the propane torch. > > Time. Weight. DW (weight change) > 0. 152 > 1. 141. 11 Mesquite Chunks too big, requires > lots of ignition with propane torch > 2. 135. 14 > 3. 128. 7 > 4. 121. 7 > 5. 110. 11 > 6. 98. 12 > 7. 86. . 12. Highest Temperature with Cen-Tech > IR pyrometers 190 C. > 8. 72. 14 > 9. 60. 12 > 10. 46. 14 > 11. 34.5. 11.5 > 12. 21. 13.5 > 13. 9. 12. End of yellow flame, put charcoal in > can and weighed > > Yield: 38 g ==> 38/152= 25.0% > > COMMENT - this is a High charcoal yield, but not enormous. The pine chunks > below yielded 15% charcoal. > > <><><><> > > Same experiment with lignin chunks from a brown forest lignin log broken up > by hand. Incredibly light. Probably the first time anyone ever gasified > pure lignin - and maybe the last. It is a very low density fuel, since all > the cellulose was eaten by microorganisms. > > > Time wt. dW > 0. 54 > 1. 47. 7 > 2. 40. 7 > 3. 32.5. 7.5 Some soot in flame > 4. 27.5. 5 > 4.5. 26. 1.5 Yellow out > > Yield 6.5 g, 12%. > > I have long believed that it is the lignin that is the precursor to > charcoal. > This experiment suggeststhis is probably not true. > > <><><><> > > Pine block - Wanderer > > 3/4 sq x1" pine blocks > > 0. 96.5. dW > 1. 89. 7.5 > 2. 85. 4.0 > 3. 80.5. 4.5 > 4. 76 4.5. Can maximum temperature 190C. > 5. 71. 5 > 6. 65. 6 > 7. 57. 8 > 8. 51.5. 5.5 > 9. 46. 6.5 > 10. 39. 7 Flame low > 11. 31.5. 7.5 Flame much higher, end effect > 12. 22. 9.5 big fire > 13. 13. 9 All block surfaces on fire, but > centers still outgasing > 14. 5.5. 7.5 Can temp 350 with Cen-Tech IR > pyrometers > > 15 g charcoal = 15.5% > > Note: dry wood has a typical heat of combustion of 21 kJ/g, so complete > combustion would generate (21000/60) 350 Watts/Gm-min. > > However in the TLUD this is reduced to maybe 16 kJ/Gm-min or 270 > Watts/g-min, because mostly cellulose and water are volatilized and the > remaining charcoal generates 26 kJ/g, or 433 W/g-min. > > So a burn rate of 12 g/min would yield a (270 X 12) 3.2 kW flame. > Fuel bed 4"D x 3" deep > > I hope this information is useful, but needs digesting. > > Tom Reed > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/181a74ff/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 49205 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/181a74ff/attachment.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 41329 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/181a74ff/attachment-0001.jpeg> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > End of Gasification Digest, Vol 16, Issue 16 > ******************************************** > _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
