Rex, And where is this plant situated? Kundly Otto > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:16:51 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Construction of the first pyrolysis plant > (biomass-to-liquid) has started > > Folks, > > On Friday and again on Monday (yesterday) we converted sawdust into a > hydrocarbon oil. > > Essentially what we are trying to do is "low temperature catalysis" (see > Ernst Bayer patent from the '80's which produced gas, "petrochemical oil" and > char) which involves slow (as opposed to fast pyrolysis) heat up of biomass > in the presence of a catalyst. As the reactions begin to occur, the catalyst > cracks the long chains and systematically deoxygenates the liquid by > dehydration (H2O), decarboxylation (CO2) and decarbonalyation (CO) leaving a > low oxygen content oil as the liquid product. The benefit of the low oxygen > is that, after fractionation, this oil can be added to mineral diesel and > kerosene. Alternatively, if supplied to a refinery, it can be added to the > feed going to the hydrotreater where deoxygenation is completed. This puts it > equivalent to mineral based fuels. > > While this is not gasification, it is an interesting progression of trying to > convert biomass into a renewable fuel, in this case liquid. Our next step is > to add two more upstream processing steps to improve the overall process. > > Kind regards > Rex Zietsman > > From: Tom Reed [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 February 2014 02:34 PM > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > Cc: [email protected]; Jurgen Honig > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Construction of the first pyrolysis plant > (biomass-to-liquid) has started > > Tom Taylor and all > > We Humans are word manipulators, mostly to our benefit. > > But "pyrolysis oil" is a dangerous misnomer! Hydrocarbon oils have been fully > reduced by geologic processes and store maximum energy In a Minimum volume. > > Oil can be represented as chains of CH2 of varying length. > > Carbohydrates, CH2O,(sugars, C6H12O6 and their polymers, starch and > cellulose, C6H10,O5) are already 1/3 oxidized, and as such, are much more > reactive for the purposes of life. > > So further oxidation to the witches brew of pyrolsis "oils" is the wrong > direction. Don't be misled by the name! > > Tom Reed > > >From Tom Reed > > AKA > > Dr Thomas B Reed > 508 353 7841 > Www.Thomas Reed Inventions .com > > On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:18 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone know how they address the problems of pyrolysis oil such as it's > acidic nature, tends to harden by auto oxidation over time, and other issues > that the US DOE has spent significant amounts of money on and no one that I > am aware of including folks trying fast pyrolysis have overcome? > In the late 60's or early 70's Occidental Chemical tried a 200 ton/day > fast pyrolysis plant in the San Diego area that ran for 8 hours before they > scrapped it. This has been going on for a long time. > Sincerely, > Leland T. "Tom" Taylor > Thermogenics Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Otto Formo <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 1:11 am > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Construction of the first pyrolysis plant > (biomass-to-liquid) has started > Tom, > According to my knowledge, one plant has allready been build in Norway, but > due to the fact that the oil producing government of Norway (or Statoil), was > not ready to give them a start up tax reduction for their finished products, > its is not in operation. > > A pilot plant in a smaler scale, has been running for some time now, funded > by EU. > > Otto > > ________________________________________ > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:47:32 +1100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Construction of the first pyrolysis plant > (biomass-to-liquid) has started > > cha > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > -------- Original message -------- > Subject: [Gasification] Construction of the first pyrolysis plant > (biomass-to-liquid) has started > From: Tom Miles <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > CC: > > Empyro BV announces that the construction of its pyrolysis oil production > plant has started at the AkzoNobel site in Hengelo (The Netherlands). By the > end of this year construction will have been completed. The production > capacity will then be gradually increased to its maximum of over 20 million > litres of pyrolysis oil per year. This amount of renewable oil will replace > 12 million cubic meters of natural gas, the equivalent annual consumption of > 8,000 Dutch households, which saves up to 20,000 tonnes of CO2 emissions per > year. Additionally, the project creates approximately 100 person-years of > work in Overijssel. > http://www.btg-btl.com/en/company/news/news/article?id=105 > > > > _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to > Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings > use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to > Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings > use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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