Tom, Your experience is not dissimilar to mine in Mozambique. The success of off grid power is in the desire to keep the machine working. If there is no desire, the machine stops working at the first hurdle. Furthermore, the value of power in these communities is frequently not understood until they have experienced it. Only when you take it away do people appreciate what it can do to aid living a better/easier life.
Rex Zietsman -----Original Message----- From: Tom Miles [mailto:tmi...@trmiles.com] Sent: 23 September 2014 02:29 AM To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' Subject: Re: [Gasification] APL gasifiers at sawmill in Alaska David, Funding. This was a demonstration project. We split off a small load at the mill to demonstrate it and then it was to be moved to another site with the chips to be supplied from the mill. The funding ended so the project ended. There were many other "non-technical" factors that halted the use. We will get them back in operation but there are many organizations involved and these things take time. There are many factors that make it difficult to substitute biomass for diesel power even when it costs $0.65/kWh so cost is not everything. Last Spring a native corporation official told us last Spring that even though it was not economic for them to heat with wood in their remote villages at the current price of oil they would stay with wood because it benefitted the whole community. We need to look beyond fuel price when it is relevant. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Gasification [mailto:gasification-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of David Coote Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM To: gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org Subject: [Gasification] APL gasifiers at sawmill in Alaska On 23/09/2014 4:00 AM, gasification-requ...@lists.bioenergylists.org wrote: Hi Tom, Do you have any reports or similar available from the testing you mention below on the APL systems? And even if the sawmill was using a lot more power than (20 + 10) kWe I would have thought that if the mill is out in the boonies somewhere it would be paying a lot/kWh for electricity. So even 30kWe would be useful. Especially since they have biomass available onsite. Was there another issue such as getting the chip characteristics correct? Thanks David > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 17:20:58 -0700 > From: "Tom Miles"<tmi...@trmiles.com> > To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" > <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] : Borealis / Spanner RE2 CHP > Message-ID:<002101cfd5fb$164d8380$42e88a80$@trmiles.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thomas, > > > [snip] > > We need to distinguish between small gasifiers intended for > intermittent use or daily power only and gasifiers like the Spanner that are intended for continuous generation. We bought 10 kWe and 20 kWe All Power Labs Power Pallets in 2011 and after testing them at a university we installed them at a sawmill in Alaska in 2012. (The mill hasn?t used them because they were too small for the mill loads and we haven?t gotten them relocated to a village where they could be useful for small laods.) APL has probably built a couple of hundred 20 kWe power pallets since then. The APL power pallet makes a nice clean gas at a low capital cost. Like the small Ankurs and their clones they are batch fed and are probably used a few hours per day. > > > > Tom > > > > > _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address gasificat...@bioenergylists.org to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg ylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address gasificat...@bioenergylists.org to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
